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All 3 of those arguments are correct if we’re being frank
1) Football is the only door opener in eventual realignment, VT’s entire brand is built around football. You bring up UCLA, who got picked primarily because they have a long history, massive fanbase, and play in the most famous football stadium in the world. It would take decades of excellence in basketball (no other sports are driving it, ask Stanford) to even sniff the same level of impact that just being on average a top 25 football team would have.
2) if you believe in your staff, which I would hope the people in charge who hired them do, then this is an easy decision. If we hired the wrong guy so be it, but hindsight is 20/20. MY has proven he can only win with guys he has developed, good luck relying on development even with big NIL dollars. With more money comes accelerated timelines, imagine the reaction if we pumped basketball full of dollars and ended up on the bubble.
3) This is unquestionable, just the gameday economic impact alone from 6 home games dwarfs every other sport combined. Way more fans care about football so if the team wins 9 games the level of giving goes up. VT can do crazy things like win the ACC in basketball and it’s just a blip (just ask Will about board traffic that day vs any fall saturday), no VT fans plan an entire 3 months of their weekends around other sports, the only ones who do live within spitting distance of campus and tbh those aren’t the ones who have big money to donate.
Bottom line is all the actual decision makers at VT with deep pockets and careers built on making strategic decisons did the math and all agreed on football. That’s where we have our core competencies, that’s where our capex has historically gone, and that’s where incremental improvement pays outsized dividends. Being a tournament basketball team doesn’t move the needle, being an infrequent sweet 16 participant doesn’t move the needle, you need to actually win. You don’t have to actually win in football, all you need to do is be a participant in the big show.
Don’t get me wrong, basketball is my favorite sport and I’d love if we supported it, but objectively if you had to pick between the 2 as VT the choice is obvious. If we had no football history then sure, but we were in contention for national titles for almost a decade and the entire brand of the school is based on the football crowd.
** Edited by soflahokie at 11/4/2024, 8:09:31 AM
Thread Replies (32)
Time to shift NIL to basketball.**
-- amcjbc
Nov 02, 2024 at 04:20 PM ET
amcjbc
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11/02/24 04:20 PM ET
I feel pretty confident the ROI on basketball is higher, given that 1-2
-- hokiehill1117
Nov 04, 2024 at 07:29 AM ET
hokiehill1117
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11/04/24 07:29 AM ET
Because we didn't beat a decent team on the road without out our top 3
-- UTPr0sim
Nov 03, 2024 at 08:11 PM ET
UTPr0sim
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11/03/24 08:11 PM ET
Football pays the bills and drives conference realignment..ask Duke**
-- HOKIE75-79
Nov 02, 2024 at 09:56 PM ET
HOKIE75-79
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11/02/24 09:56 PM ET
Or Arizona, UCLA, Gonzaga...
-- GCHokie34
Nov 03, 2024 at 02:13 PM ET
GCHokie34
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11/03/24 02:13 PM ET
Yep, the ACC is going to stay as is for a while...
-- GCHokie34
Nov 03, 2024 at 02:31 PM ET
GCHokie34
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11/03/24 02:31 PM ET
I'm not predicting anything about VT football
-- GCHokie34
Nov 03, 2024 at 03:14 PM ET
GCHokie34
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11/03/24 03:14 PM ET
All 3 of those arguments are correct if we’re being frank
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-- soflahokie
Nov 04, 2024 at 08:04 AM ET
soflahokie
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11/04/24 08:04 AM ET
The word is the NIL situation should be better for this next offseason
-- jfrance41
Nov 02, 2024 at 08:07 PM ET
jfrance41
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11/02/24 08:07 PM ET
Why? What is changing next year that couldn't be done this year **
-- hokeyhokie
Nov 03, 2024 at 09:27 AM ET
hokeyhokie
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11/03/24 09:27 AM ET
VT athletics can add any amount to NIL. Now about those free student
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 03, 2024 at 06:04 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/03/24 06:04 PM ET
Believe it’s a combination of the new Virginia NIL law and a wake up call
-- jfrance41
Nov 03, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
jfrance41
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11/03/24 10:38 AM ET
This is the weirdest year I can remember for getting a before season handle
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 02, 2024 at 09:27 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/02/24 09:27 PM ET
I think the Penn state game will tell us a lot. Ace Baldwin is one of the
-- jfrance41
Nov 02, 2024 at 11:33 PM ET
jfrance41
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11/02/24 11:33 PM ET
Definitely want to pay to keep Jones and esp. Johnson, Kid's a baller!!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 02, 2024 at 09:07 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/02/24 09:07 PM ET
Definitely, they should both have solid roles as freshman**
-- jfrance41
Nov 02, 2024 at 11:34 PM ET
jfrance41
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11/02/24 11:34 PM ET
We are currently dead last in the ACC for hoops NIL. More is of course
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 02, 2024 at 09:06 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/02/24 09:06 PM ET
Nope- UL 🏀 is gifted $30 million every year
-- tallahasseehokie
Nov 03, 2024 at 04:43 PM ET
tallahasseehokie
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11/03/24 04:43 PM ET
You're right. $2.5-3 million would be 3 times what CMY now has to use.**
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 02, 2024 at 09:13 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/02/24 09:13 PM ET
I'll post less when the Boardhosts tell me to. We're waiting for your reply
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 03, 2024 at 07:02 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/03/24 07:02 PM ET
Let the board know then, Mr. Expert, just what the men's basketball NIL is.
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 03, 2024 at 06:57 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/03/24 06:57 PM ET
Current years roster is
-- MFWHokie0607
Nov 03, 2024 at 07:23 PM ET
MFWHokie0607
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11/03/24 07:23 PM ET
I accept your apology and we're all in a bad mood after yesterday. Hope
-- ancient alien 2018
Nov 03, 2024 at 07:24 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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11/03/24 07:24 PM ET
it depends on the donors
-- 1947Sunbowl
Nov 02, 2024 at 04:23 PM ET
1947Sunbowl
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11/02/24 04:23 PM ET