idolized for some of the wrong reasons, and had his own issues. Lots of posters on here will run down Seth Greenberg or Buzz Williams, but think the WORLD of Charley Moir. But Moir had recruiting violations, was merely a fair game-day coach and his teams imploded at the end of the year as badly or worse than Greenberg's. But when it comes to basketball success, Buzz had it over Moir. And honestly, if Seth had just changed one game on his damn schedule in 2007, 2009 and 2010 he would have equaled Moir's NCAAT appearances. I'm pretty sure that their players thought well of them, too. But Charley was "one of us" so he gets the benefit of the doubt. ** Edited by King of Hokies at 3/6/2026, 12:43:17 PM