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Obviously it’s not factored in as heavily as efficiency in OOC

Iowa State was top 20 in NET after non conference play and their best wins were VCU and Iowa. Their OOC SOS is 292 ours is 37. They were 11-2 with Ls to us and aTm; we were 8-3 with Ls vs USCe, at Auburn & vs FAU; all top 40 teams away from home Yet our NET was always below them in spite of beating them on a neutral court and having a top 40 OOC schedule vs their 292. Especially after losing big to FAU and Auburn (we were exhausted and had too many tough games in a week span) Iowa State is obviously a tourney team…and I’m glad they’re up there…frankly that win helps us a ton because of their ranking…but as CC shows in his article it’s not about OOC SoS anymore. Too bad because if it was like this for Seth Greenberg teams he’d have had 2 more NCAA tourney teams
Posted: 01/31/2024 at 04:28 PM ET
(In response to this post by Pride_and_Joy)

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NET nonsense: Today’s edition: Clemson wins but not by enough
hokiepro • 01/31/24 09:33 AM ET
Maybe it should be the most wins at the least number of points
VTCALS72 • 02/03/24 10:10 AM ET
How else do you want to judge?
HokiesACC2004 • 01/31/24 06:33 PM ET
I think honestly they should average the RPI & NET;
hokiepro • 01/31/24 06:36 PM ET
I don't think there is any case to use RPI...
Cvillehoops13 • 02/01/24 11:11 AM ET
Do you think they realized the big discrepancy some would see
hokiepro • 02/01/24 11:53 AM ET
I don't think there is any use in evaluating the NET until the end...
Cvillehoops13 • 02/01/24 02:21 PM ET
Makes sense; seems NET can be “gamed” as a conference too
hokiepro • 02/01/24 03:43 PM ET
If the goal is to evaluate teams in the most accurate way possible...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/31/24 03:18 PM ET
But wouldn't that just make teams go for blowouts?
VTCALS72 • 02/03/24 10:04 AM ET
I agree that NET is an improvement over RPI. However, the Quad system needs
HokieEngineer • 01/31/24 06:20 PM ET
Yes, treating it as a continuous variable is better
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 06:30 PM ET
A question.....
2hhoop3 • 01/31/24 04:29 PM ET
Both, but meant just as much as…
Cvillehoops13 • 02/01/24 07:58 AM ET
Thanks for the reply......
2hhoop3 • 02/01/24 11:30 AM ET
I don't know the NET formulae very well but I too don't understand
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 03:52 PM ET
It’s about how OOC resumes are viewed
hokiepro • 01/31/24 04:03 PM ET
The committee does what it wants.**
VTCALS72 • 02/03/24 10:06 AM ET
SOS is part of NET so isn't that already factored into the ranking?
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 04:13 PM ET
Obviously it’s not factored in as heavily as efficiency in OOC ◄
hokiepro • 01/31/24 04:28 PM ET
And why should SOS be weighted more than efficiency? **
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 04:34 PM ET
More than anything it’s an opinion BUT
hokiepro • 01/31/24 05:16 PM ET
They have. In a positive direction, IMO **
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 06:27 PM ET
Wow, when did we lose 2 more games??**
hokiepro • 01/31/24 03:22 PM ET
Corrected, sorry was doing some hypotheticals and of course didn't reset...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/31/24 03:27 PM ET
We’re 4-8 in Q1+Q2
hokiepro • 01/31/24 03:24 PM ET
Efficiency is essentially adjusted for quality of opponent and location
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 04:40 PM ET
The problem is that because the NET is used to just be based on this year..
Cvillehoops13 • 01/31/24 03:34 PM ET
If we woulda beaten the cocks and FSU we ain’t worrying bout no NET
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/31/24 02:31 PM ET
I wish the tournament would just go to 128 teams
OrlandoHokie • 01/31/24 12:01 PM ET
The regular season is already meaningless
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 12:52 PM ET
The regular season obviously isn’t “meaningless” when relatively recent
hokiepro • 01/31/24 03:54 PM ET
"Meaningless" is a strong term. "Not compelling might be a better phrase.
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 04:04 PM ET
Hang on one second...
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 03:58 PM ET
Isn't the NCAA tournament more about gambling now? Too big to fail.**
WildTurkE • 01/31/24 12:04 PM ET
I think 96 makes sense.
hokiepro • 01/31/24 12:03 PM ET
Actually for keeping interest in VTMBB 68 is ideal
Vippie1 • 01/31/24 01:18 PM ET
1000% agree
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 01:50 PM ET
The one that really pisses me off is Nova
ReasFordHoo • 01/31/24 10:49 AM ET
Every year there is a team with a resume that makes it VERY difficult...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/31/24 03:23 PM ET
Yup,Nova sucks.Both VT and UVA would beat Nova right now,this is not Jay
HokieBrazil • 01/31/24 02:35 PM ET
In the NET system, does a 10 point win
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 10:16 AM ET
Well, efficiency ratings are built in...
Chris ColemanAdmin • 01/31/24 10:37 AM ET
Thanks Chris. That's helpful.
Pride_and_Joy • 01/31/24 10:49 AM ET
If only they would have beat Duke (:
MVIII • 01/31/24 09:47 AM ET