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Not sure what that has to do with your original comment...

But you are missing the key point and romanticizing something that doesn't exist If you had said "I don't think we are going to see Rodney Rice level players because Blacksburg is in a geographical purgatory as it relates to attracting top level athletes" then I would 100% agree with you If you had said "I fully understand that Rodney Rice level athletes have only ever come to VT due to previous relationships with assistant coaches, and thus it would be insanely stupid to suggest recruiting that level with any level of consistency is a realistic option" then I would agree with you A "recruiter" who can convince a previously unknown top level athlete to spend 2-4 years in Blacksburg Virginia doesn't exist...unless you're cheating Buzz cheated his balls off and here's what he had to show for it... Of the Top 25 all time recruits in the 247 era, they were recruited by: Seth Greenberg - 9 Buzz Williams - 8 Mike Young - 7 James Johnson - 1 He cheated, bought players, took SATs for them...and still was on par with every other coach since the year 2000 "Ace recruiters" do not exist in the way fans think of them. There isn't a recruiting attribute like a video game that allows some assistant to just Jedi-mind-trick athletes into coming to Blacksburg. The best recruiters are the ones with the most contacts. You can get your foot in the door. You can be personable and identify well with athletes, but at the end of the day you're only as good as your product. The best "recruiter" VT has had on their bench in the last 25 years was Mike Jones and even he couldn't sway most top level kids into taking that leap to Blacksburg. But he got VTs foot in the door at IMG. He got kids to visit who had no business ever signing with VT. But the problem is they eventually figure out Blacksburg ain't it. And no matter of "recruiting harder" can change those circumstances. Mike Jones eventually figured out its a lot easier to recruit DC kids to College Park than it is to get them to Blacksburg. Throw in any average recruiter at VT and they're going to recruit the nominally the same as someone considered a top level recruiter.
Posted: 08/13/2023 at 04:23 PM ET
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has Sir Muhammad announced yet? **
lazarus1 08/12/23 08:14 PM ET
ND**
Wade4VT 08/12/23 08:29 PM ET
Our 2 best prospects both went nd**
hokietom87 08/13/23 12:07 PM ET
Sundra wasn't even top 10...**
GCHokie34 08/13/23 01:48 PM ET
just don't think we are going to see any more Rodney Rice level
lazarus1 08/13/23 03:51 PM ET
Not sure what that has to do with your original comment...
GCHokie34 08/13/23 04:23 PM ET
All true, but it’s not like FB with ~25 to a class.
marcbvtgm 08/15/23 08:39 PM ET
I've been over it...
GCHokie34 08/15/23 09:09 PM ET
What is “it” in terms of what Blacksburg is missing?
GoldCoast 08/13/23 10:57 PM ET
Pretty much everything that a social media obsessed teen wants?
soflahokie 08/15/23 08:09 AM ET
An airport, nightlife, restaurants open past 9pm...
GCHokie34 08/13/23 11:13 PM ET
If you fly into ATL or PIT, it takes just as long to get to campus as from
Hokey Pokey 08/16/23 08:05 AM ET
Again, those are much larger cities...
GCHokie34 08/16/23 08:41 AM ET
Is an airport even a requirement?Many of the state universities out there
HokieBrazil 08/14/23 08:58 AM ET
You just named a bunch of places you can fly directly into
soflahokie 08/15/23 08:15 AM ET
Yes...
GCHokie34 08/14/23 09:46 AM ET
Nope,Lawrence and Ames don't have a commercial airport.Neither does
HokieBrazil 08/14/23 08:38 PM ET
Tuscaloosa and Lawrence...
GCHokie34 08/14/23 09:27 PM ET
NYC and LA are larger than both. Those cities aren't dominating the hoops
KCHokie2 08/14/23 09:56 PM ET
UCLA & USC don’t recruit well? South Bend is an hour from Chicago.**
marcbvtgm 08/15/23 08:41 PM ET
Yes, if there's anything we know...
GCHokie34 08/14/23 10:32 PM ET
Indeed they are. USC is not. St. John's isn't. Schools on Tobacco Road
KCHokie2 08/14/23 10:53 PM ET
Every school mentioned...
GCHokie34 08/14/23 11:21 PM ET
Truth for Bball and football**
VTCALS72 08/17/23 07:59 PM ET
Regarding Uber...
Chris ColemanAdmin 08/16/23 09:08 PM ET
A follow-up question,is it the nature of Men's Basketball athletes that
HokieBrazil 08/15/23 10:21 AM ET
Basketball tends to be more of an urban sport than football
UpperQuad 08/16/23 01:13 PM ET
Excellent question
GCHokie34 08/15/23 11:19 AM ET
USC is located in a slum. UCLA has the nice campus.**
EDGEMAN 08/15/23 08:35 AM ET
That's why I've lived in Blacksburg for 34 years.
Gadfly 08/15/23 06:00 AM ET
That’s nice. Irrelevant to the discussion, but nice.**
marcbvtgm 08/15/23 08:45 PM ET
Gadfly is 7'6" and has a mean hook shot**
Hokie Chris 08/16/23 04:04 PM ET
Should Georgia Tech's location have them atop the ACC?
KCHokie2 08/15/23 01:25 AM ET
It's not some nice, neat 1:1 correlation
Pylons 08/16/23 10:21 AM ET
Failure to reach your potential...
GCHokie34 08/15/23 01:50 AM ET
Bill Foster summed this up pretty well.....
vtbball80 08/14/23 11:27 PM ET
Did you know that VT International Airport has government contract fuel?
EDGEMAN 08/14/23 08:01 PM ET
When GCH..34 speaks, it’s like when E.F. Hutton speaks. Nevertheless, in a
Hokieville 08/14/23 11:10 PM ET
Does that give them access to commercial flights?
GCHokie34 08/14/23 08:09 PM ET
I would say yes, but the question remains...
EDGEMAN 08/15/23 08:34 AM ET
You missed the point. ROA is too far away according to many recruits. VT
949hokie 08/15/23 04:58 PM ET
It's big enough to support commercial aviation, but...
EDGEMAN 08/15/23 05:15 PM ET
and a major disavantage for VT when recruiting**
949hokie 08/15/23 05:27 PM ET
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣**
NC Maroon 08/14/23 10:24 AM ET
Other than Lawrence, which of those campuses
Pylons 08/14/23 09:25 AM ET
“Took SATs for them…”
hokiepro 08/13/23 06:58 PM ET
See Nolley, Landers**
GCHokie34 08/13/23 10:07 PM ET
And then had the balls to have the guy (fixer) who arranged it sit right
Femoyer Hokie 08/14/23 09:53 AM ET
Yes, your memory is correct.**
RJHokie 08/14/23 10:13 AM ET
Sticky post material**
Femoyer Hokie 08/13/23 04:37 PM ET
Notre Dame **
Wade4VT 08/12/23 08:51 PM ET
getting concerned that our recruiting is going downhill
lazarus1 08/12/23 10:31 PM ET
The recruiting coaches can only do so much. The school must be attractive..
hokie77 08/13/23 01:12 PM ET
You know what's attractive?
EDGEMAN 08/14/23 10:45 AM ET
To GC’s point, uva still hasn’t landed a 5 star
wahoo2023 08/14/23 10:57 PM ET
UVA won a national championship in the last 5 years...
GCHokie34 08/14/23 11:53 AM ET
VT Football had a significant jump in skill players after MV1
EDGEMAN 08/15/23 08:38 AM ET
Vick did elevate our recruiting somewhat, for awhile.
hokieZ71 08/14/23 11:04 PM ET
Following the National Championship appearance
GCHokie34 08/14/23 11:38 PM ET
Like I said. Sole, top end blue chippers Every year or two.
hokieZ71 08/15/23 06:16 AM ET
Recruiting is the same as it always has been under any coach...
GCHokie34 08/12/23 11:44 PM ET
Appreciate the voice of reason regarding talent acquisition, which is...
133182Hokie 08/13/23 02:17 PM ET