Not sure what that has to do with your original comment...
But you are missing the key point and romanticizing something that doesn't exist
If you had said "I don't think we are going to see Rodney Rice level players because Blacksburg is in a geographical purgatory as it relates to attracting top level athletes" then I would 100% agree with you
If you had said "I fully understand that Rodney Rice level athletes have only ever come to VT due to previous relationships with assistant coaches, and thus it would be insanely stupid to suggest recruiting that level with any level of consistency is a realistic option" then I would agree with you
A "recruiter" who can convince a previously unknown top level athlete to spend 2-4 years in Blacksburg Virginia doesn't exist...unless you're cheating
Buzz cheated his balls off and here's what he had to show for it...
Of the Top 25 all time recruits in the 247 era, they were recruited by:
Seth Greenberg - 9
Buzz Williams - 8
Mike Young - 7
James Johnson - 1
He cheated, bought players, took SATs for them...and still was on par with every other coach since the year 2000
"Ace recruiters" do not exist in the way fans think of them. There isn't a recruiting attribute like a video game that allows some assistant to just Jedi-mind-trick athletes into coming to Blacksburg.
The best recruiters are the ones with the most contacts. You can get your foot in the door. You can be personable and identify well with athletes, but at the end of the day you're only as good as your product.
The best "recruiter" VT has had on their bench in the last 25 years was Mike Jones and even he couldn't sway most top level kids into taking that leap to Blacksburg. But he got VTs foot in the door at IMG. He got kids to visit who had no business ever signing with VT. But the problem is they eventually figure out Blacksburg ain't it. And no matter of "recruiting harder" can change those circumstances. Mike Jones eventually figured out its a lot easier to recruit DC kids to College Park than it is to get them to Blacksburg.
Throw in any average recruiter at VT and they're going to recruit the nominally the same as someone considered a top level recruiter.
Thread Replies (61)
has Sir Muhammad announced yet? **
-- lazarus1
Aug 12, 2023 at 08:14 PM ET
lazarus1
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08/12/23 08:14 PM ET
Our 2 best prospects both went nd**
-- hokietom87
Aug 13, 2023 at 12:07 PM ET
hokietom87
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08/13/23 12:07 PM ET
Sundra wasn't even top 10...**
-- GCHokie34
Aug 13, 2023 at 01:48 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/13/23 01:48 PM ET
just don't think we are going to see any more Rodney Rice level
-- lazarus1
Aug 13, 2023 at 03:51 PM ET
lazarus1
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08/13/23 03:51 PM ET
Not sure what that has to do with your original comment...
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-- GCHokie34
Aug 13, 2023 at 04:23 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/13/23 04:23 PM ET
All true, but it’s not like FB with ~25 to a class.
-- marcbvtgm
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:39 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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08/15/23 08:39 PM ET
What is “it” in terms of what Blacksburg is missing?
-- GoldCoast
Aug 13, 2023 at 10:57 PM ET
GoldCoast
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08/13/23 10:57 PM ET
Pretty much everything that a social media obsessed teen wants?
-- soflahokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:09 AM ET
soflahokie
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08/15/23 08:09 AM ET
An airport, nightlife, restaurants open past 9pm...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 13, 2023 at 11:13 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/13/23 11:13 PM ET
If you fly into ATL or PIT, it takes just as long to get to campus as from
-- Hokey Pokey
Aug 16, 2023 at 08:05 AM ET
Hokey Pokey
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08/16/23 08:05 AM ET
Again, those are much larger cities...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 16, 2023 at 08:41 AM ET
GCHokie34
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08/16/23 08:41 AM ET
Is an airport even a requirement?Many of the state universities out there
-- HokieBrazil
Aug 14, 2023 at 08:58 AM ET
HokieBrazil
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08/14/23 08:58 AM ET
You just named a bunch of places you can fly directly into
-- soflahokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:15 AM ET
soflahokie
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08/15/23 08:15 AM ET
Nope,Lawrence and Ames don't have a commercial airport.Neither does
-- HokieBrazil
Aug 14, 2023 at 08:38 PM ET
HokieBrazil
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08/14/23 08:38 PM ET
Tuscaloosa and Lawrence...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 14, 2023 at 09:27 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/14/23 09:27 PM ET
NYC and LA are larger than both. Those cities aren't dominating the hoops
-- KCHokie2
Aug 14, 2023 at 09:56 PM ET
KCHokie2
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08/14/23 09:56 PM ET
UCLA & USC don’t recruit well? South Bend is an hour from Chicago.**
-- marcbvtgm
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:41 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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08/15/23 08:41 PM ET
Yes, if there's anything we know...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/14/23 10:32 PM ET
Indeed they are. USC is not. St. John's isn't. Schools on Tobacco Road
-- KCHokie2
Aug 14, 2023 at 10:53 PM ET
KCHokie2
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08/14/23 10:53 PM ET
Truth for Bball and football**
-- VTCALS72
Aug 17, 2023 at 07:59 PM ET
VTCALS72
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08/17/23 07:59 PM ET
A follow-up question,is it the nature of Men's Basketball athletes that
-- HokieBrazil
Aug 15, 2023 at 10:21 AM ET
HokieBrazil
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08/15/23 10:21 AM ET
Basketball tends to be more of an urban sport than football
-- UpperQuad
Aug 16, 2023 at 01:13 PM ET
UpperQuad
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08/16/23 01:13 PM ET
USC is located in a slum. UCLA has the nice campus.**
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:35 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/15/23 08:35 AM ET
That's why I've lived in Blacksburg for 34 years.
-- Gadfly
Aug 15, 2023 at 06:00 AM ET
Gadfly
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08/15/23 06:00 AM ET
That’s nice. Irrelevant to the discussion, but nice.**
-- marcbvtgm
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:45 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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08/15/23 08:45 PM ET
Gadfly is 7'6" and has a mean hook shot**
-- Hokie Chris
Aug 16, 2023 at 04:04 PM ET
Hokie Chris
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08/16/23 04:04 PM ET
Should Georgia Tech's location have them atop the ACC?
-- KCHokie2
Aug 15, 2023 at 01:25 AM ET
KCHokie2
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08/15/23 01:25 AM ET
It's not some nice, neat 1:1 correlation
-- Pylons
Aug 16, 2023 at 10:21 AM ET
Pylons
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08/16/23 10:21 AM ET
Failure to reach your potential...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 15, 2023 at 01:50 AM ET
GCHokie34
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08/15/23 01:50 AM ET
Bill Foster summed this up pretty well.....
-- vtbball80
Aug 14, 2023 at 11:27 PM ET
vtbball80
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08/14/23 11:27 PM ET
Did you know that VT International Airport has government contract fuel?
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 14, 2023 at 08:01 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/14/23 08:01 PM ET
When GCH..34 speaks, it’s like when E.F. Hutton speaks. Nevertheless, in a
-- Hokieville
Aug 14, 2023 at 11:10 PM ET
Hokieville
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08/14/23 11:10 PM ET
Does that give them access to commercial flights?
-- GCHokie34
Aug 14, 2023 at 08:09 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/14/23 08:09 PM ET
I would say yes, but the question remains...
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:34 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/15/23 08:34 AM ET
You missed the point. ROA is too far away according to many recruits. VT
-- 949hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 04:58 PM ET
949hokie
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08/15/23 04:58 PM ET
It's big enough to support commercial aviation, but...
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 15, 2023 at 05:15 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/15/23 05:15 PM ET
and a major disavantage for VT when recruiting**
-- 949hokie
Aug 15, 2023 at 05:27 PM ET
949hokie
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08/15/23 05:27 PM ET
Other than Lawrence, which of those campuses
-- Pylons
Aug 14, 2023 at 09:25 AM ET
Pylons
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08/14/23 09:25 AM ET
And then had the balls to have the guy (fixer) who arranged it sit right
-- Femoyer Hokie
Aug 14, 2023 at 09:53 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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08/14/23 09:53 AM ET
Yes, your memory is correct.**
-- RJHokie
Aug 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM ET
RJHokie
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08/14/23 10:13 AM ET
Sticky post material**
-- Femoyer Hokie
Aug 13, 2023 at 04:37 PM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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08/13/23 04:37 PM ET
getting concerned that our recruiting is going downhill
-- lazarus1
Aug 12, 2023 at 10:31 PM ET
lazarus1
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08/12/23 10:31 PM ET
The recruiting coaches can only do so much. The school must be attractive..
-- hokie77
Aug 13, 2023 at 01:12 PM ET
hokie77
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08/13/23 01:12 PM ET
To GC’s point, uva still hasn’t landed a 5 star
-- wahoo2023
Aug 14, 2023 at 10:57 PM ET
wahoo2023
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08/14/23 10:57 PM ET
UVA won a national championship in the last 5 years...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 14, 2023 at 11:53 AM ET
GCHokie34
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08/14/23 11:53 AM ET
VT Football had a significant jump in skill players after MV1
-- EDGEMAN
Aug 15, 2023 at 08:38 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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08/15/23 08:38 AM ET
Vick did elevate our recruiting somewhat, for awhile.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 14, 2023 at 11:04 PM ET
hokieZ71
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08/14/23 11:04 PM ET
Following the National Championship appearance
-- GCHokie34
Aug 14, 2023 at 11:38 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/14/23 11:38 PM ET
Like I said. Sole, top end blue chippers Every year or two.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 15, 2023 at 06:16 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/15/23 06:16 AM ET
Recruiting is the same as it always has been under any coach...
-- GCHokie34
Aug 12, 2023 at 11:44 PM ET
GCHokie34
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08/12/23 11:44 PM ET
Appreciate the voice of reason regarding talent acquisition, which is...
-- 133182Hokie
Aug 13, 2023 at 02:17 PM ET
133182Hokie
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08/13/23 02:17 PM ET