Yeah, I year ya, and you have triggered a rant...
Regarding staffing, some of that is Young's fault, and some of it isn't. He wasn't at the top of my list when we hired him because I was worried about the staff he would put together since he had spent his entire career at a lower level, even as an assistant. And we've had a mixed bag, some of which was in his control, and some not so much.
Hernandez is on Young. No way around that. It was a bad hire. He wasn't a fit at all. I haven't heard anybody say a good thing about him. Even the NCSU staff (Hernandez was with Wade at LSU) keeps their mouths shut about him. He never should have been hired here. Either it was an act of desperation, or Young doesn't fully grasp the P4 scene in the modern era. Maybe some of both.
Mike Jones didn't work. But I'm not criticizing it, because I would have done the same thing, or something similar. So while that one is on Young, it's one that is harder to criticize because it seemed like a great idea at the time (like Fuente).
When Giltner left, I probably wouldn't have hired Moats. That was a reach with no ties to the region, and coming in late without knowing the system. He probably should have just promoted Ace on an interim basis. It wouldn't have made us worse from a recruiting standpoint, and the advantage is that Ace already knew the system. Then Giltner could have been replaced this spring from a wider pool of candidates than was available in October. So that one is on Young.
On the other hand, he had his Chief of Staff thrust on him. And he couldn't exactly say no, because it was the COS's husband who was pushing hard for his hire. By rejecting that, Young would have risked getting the job in the first place, so he wasn't exactly in a position to go against the grain. That's on Whit for allowing one of his assistants to wield so much influence in the athletic department.
The JD Byers hire made sense, but Young did interview other guys for the position. Ultimately there was plenty of pressure to hire Byers because his wife is the volleyball coach. His wife is the volleyball coach because Mike's COS hired her originally at Radford, so naturally that family influence led Whit to hire her at Tech. Nobody forced Mike to hire Byers, but I'm sure he got plenty of "gosh, wouldn't it be great if you could hire the volleyball coach's husband? So we can keep it one big, happy family, because golly gee shucks, Beamer retained most of his coaching staff for so many years and we won a lot of football games. It sure would be nice if you could do that so we can move backwards 20 years."
Last week a source in the industry told me that Byers isn't as effective at Tech as he was at his other stops. Perhaps because he feels more comfortable and safer, because nobody loses their job at Tech if the right people are behind you (unless you completely suck at your job, which of course he doesn't.) But that level of comfort can lead to a lack of drive.
So yeah, some of it is on Young. But plenty of it is on the same cast of characters that decided it was a good idea to hire Brent Pry because he was a GA for three years in the 90s and because he was a good SWVA fit. Whit simply gave up too much control to one person and has been unwilling to make his own decisions. If indeed his decisions would have been different. I think Odom was his top choice, but that's just a guess on my part. I don't know it for a fact.
So here we are. Young being here is a result of the local clique wielding too much influence, I think. Ironically, I think it's Young's X's and O's acumen that has kept that small-thinking, parochial, insular, short-sighted and unimaginative mindset from completely running the basketball program into the ground in the post-Buzz era. That's why I've been extremely hesitant to change coaches, and it's why I believe those who want Young gone immediately don't see the big picture and don't understand the ramifications if that had happened this year. We simply can't allow that clique to be anywhere near another major athletic department decision. It can't happen. There aren't many hills worth dying on, but that's one of them. June 30 should be a university holiday.
Hallelujah. Holy [crap]. Where's the Tylenol?
Thread Replies (89)
My take on Coach Young
-- StautonHokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:10 AM ET
StautonHokie
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03/11/26 08:10 AM ET
1 20 win season. 2 win'g ACC records, 4 year NCAA drought...He has to go..
-- Techsupport
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:42 AM ET
Techsupport
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03/11/26 08:42 AM ET
Young is a good coach with limited resources**
-- hokie1120
Mar 11, 2026 at 02:23 PM ET
hokie1120
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03/11/26 02:23 PM ET
We'd be putting the cart before the horse if we just fired Young now
-- Zanderhokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:53 PM ET
Zanderhokie
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03/11/26 01:53 PM ET
Do you really want Whit to hire another coach? I don't.
-- Atlee Hokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:51 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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03/11/26 01:51 PM ET
Here is his post season record:
-- Maroon Effect
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:34 PM ET
Maroon Effect
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03/11/26 01:34 PM ET
That assumes this or the next basketball coach already has the money in
-- VTCALS72
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:02 PM ET
VTCALS72
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03/11/26 12:02 PM ET
Two or more things can be true at the same time.
-- Vippie1
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:36 AM ET
Vippie1
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03/11/26 10:36 AM ET
Coach Young has taken VT basketball about as far as it can go
-- Zanderhokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:26 AM ET
Zanderhokie
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03/11/26 11:26 AM ET
Serious question: Do we have a constrained budget?
-- Big D
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:24 PM ET
Big D
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03/11/26 01:24 PM ET
Relative to other ACC schools, yes.
-- Zanderhokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:39 PM ET
Zanderhokie
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03/11/26 01:39 PM ET
Yeah with the defunding not long in the horizon and the emphasis on
-- GreenvilleVT
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:11 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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03/11/26 12:11 PM ET
We do not have P2 money, we do not have UNC/Duke brand
-- HokieAl
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:35 AM ET
HokieAl
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03/11/26 10:35 AM ET
We have power 2 money now. How are we punching above our weight?
-- GoldCoast
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:40 AM ET
GoldCoast
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03/11/26 11:40 AM ET
The fact is, we do not have the money that the top half of the league has. **
-- hokie1120
Mar 11, 2026 at 02:25 PM ET
hokie1120
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03/11/26 02:25 PM ET
I think you misunderstand P2 money. We might have upped our NIL, but money
-- HokieAl
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:00 PM ET
HokieAl
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03/11/26 01:00 PM ET
With The infusion of support our AD budget is ~$190-200M...
-- GoldCoast
Mar 11, 2026 at 05:07 PM ET
GoldCoast
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03/11/26 05:07 PM ET
The numbers I'm referencing come from Athletic Dept balance sheets
-- HokieAl
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:17 PM ET
HokieAl
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03/11/26 01:17 PM ET
I have a slight disagreement.....
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:59 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/11/26 10:59 AM ET
Perhaps some things will improve if the MBB CoS departs.**
-- saret
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:06 AM ET
saret
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03/11/26 11:06 AM ET
How did she end up with that job title?
-- Zanderhokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:23 AM ET
Zanderhokie
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03/11/26 11:23 AM ET
At other schools, yes. At Tech, No. Ballein welded way too much power.
-- Atlee Hokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:01 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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03/11/26 12:01 PM ET
While I agree it will be time fairly soon...
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:52 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 08:52 AM ET
It’s entirely possible we’re simply not a basketball school.
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:28 AM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/11/26 11:28 AM ET
New day in college sports, 100% about the $. See Indiana football.
-- vtfin91
Mar 11, 2026 at 01:25 PM ET
vtfin91
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03/11/26 01:25 PM ET
It may be a new day but it’s an old story.**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 11, 2026 at 02:57 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/11/26 02:57 PM ET
That’s a generational thing. Victimization 101.
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:36 AM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/11/26 11:36 AM ET
It does matter when you were born
-- Walkin` Willie
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:47 AM ET
Walkin` Willie
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03/11/26 10:47 AM ET
replace the AD first so the new one can hire the coach
-- lazarus1
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:22 AM ET
lazarus1
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03/11/26 10:22 AM ET
Yes, other than facilitating the Franklin hire I am very disappointed to
-- SCHokie1103
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:22 PM ET
SCHokie1103
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03/11/26 12:22 PM ET
Comical that Whitless is even still around**
-- NYCHokies
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:47 AM ET
NYCHokies
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03/11/26 11:47 AM ET
Yeah Stokes sat on the bench like an Easter Island statue.
-- mancunian
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:03 AM ET
mancunian
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03/11/26 10:03 AM ET
Not sure we really tried until Buzz. SG worked miracles in some ways to..
-- GoldCoast
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:00 AM ET
GoldCoast
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03/11/26 10:00 AM ET
Try, basketball and Weaver don't really fit in the same sentence**
-- hoosnowahokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:19 AM ET
hoosnowahokie
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03/11/26 10:19 AM ET
You make good points IMO......
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:46 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/11/26 09:46 AM ET
Yeah, I year ya, and you have triggered a rant...
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-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:03 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 11:03 AM ET
someone retires that day
-- ShockWaveVT
Mar 11, 2026 at 03:08 PM ET
ShockWaveVT
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03/11/26 03:08 PM ET
Wow, our athletic department is more inbred than the royal family.**
-- vatechcowpatty
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:35 PM ET
vatechcowpatty
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03/11/26 12:35 PM ET
You mean people do like coaches cause of their drawl/regional affiliation??
-- HokieRat
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:04 PM ET
HokieRat
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03/11/26 12:04 PM ET
Based on your rant a lot of that seems to be squarely on Young**
-- BackInTheBurg
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:53 AM ET
BackInTheBurg
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03/11/26 11:53 AM ET
I can deal with honest mistakes.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:59 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 11:59 AM ET
How many in the cligue?**
-- Nelsonia Hokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 04:46 PM ET
Nelsonia Hokie
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03/11/26 04:46 PM ET
Bingo! Glad you said it all**
-- Brewing_Hokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:21 AM ET
Brewing_Hokie
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03/11/26 11:21 AM ET
PREACH brutha Coleman! VT athletic department is a charade of a operation.**
-- NokieHokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:11 AM ET
NokieHokie
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03/11/26 11:11 AM ET
Great rant! Right on point. Perhaps the MBB CoS problem will solve
-- saret
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:11 AM ET
saret
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03/11/26 11:11 AM ET
Are all the Ballein's leaving on June 30? I have a pickup truck, can I help
-- VT_Consul
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:10 AM ET
VT_Consul
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03/11/26 11:10 AM ET
I nominate this as the POTW! Following softball closely but feel like I
-- VintonHokies
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:08 AM ET
VintonHokies
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03/11/26 11:08 AM ET
Since the late 50’s early 60’s we’ve been decent outside the 4 you mention
-- millmtnhokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:25 AM ET
millmtnhokie
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03/11/26 09:25 AM ET
Anything back that far isn't really comparable.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:32 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 09:32 AM ET
Maybe but more than recruiting you could factor level of competition which
-- millmtnhokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:01 AM ET
millmtnhokie
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03/11/26 11:01 AM ET
That whole 1982 class was a result of Tom Abatemarco who was on loan for on
-- dolph
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:51 AM ET
dolph
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03/11/26 09:51 AM ET
Better check your timeline.....
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:42 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/11/26 11:42 AM ET
That was nice of him.**
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:55 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 11:55 AM ET
What's going on with the reorganization?
-- RiverVT
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:03 AM ET
RiverVT
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03/11/26 09:03 AM ET
He vaulted up quite a few steps with the CJF hire. Influential
-- Nelsonia Hokie
Mar 11, 2026 at 04:48 PM ET
Nelsonia Hokie
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03/11/26 04:48 PM ET
I really don't want to talk about it anymore.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:09 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 09:09 AM ET
Whit Babcock hired Buzz Williams**
-- Techsupport
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:09 AM ET
Techsupport
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03/11/26 10:09 AM ET
And our other sport coaches. But, for some, all that matter is revenue
-- nkhooch
Mar 11, 2026 at 03:07 PM ET
nkhooch
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03/11/26 03:07 PM ET
Thanks great observation! Thanks for the feedback!
-- RiverVT
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:22 AM ET
RiverVT
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03/11/26 09:22 AM ET
That's pointless right now.
-- Chris Coleman
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:28 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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03/11/26 09:28 AM ET
I think when Sands leaves, it will be his choice. His contract could be
-- jrc3rd
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:19 AM ET
jrc3rd
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03/11/26 11:19 AM ET
It seems like b-ball may be in a little worse shape than it appears.
-- reestuart
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:13 AM ET
reestuart
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03/11/26 10:13 AM ET
I miss Steger. He was an excellent President!**
-- VTFinance10
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:12 AM ET
VTFinance10
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03/11/26 09:12 AM ET
I miss VT under Steger too.**
-- WildTurkE
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:58 AM ET
WildTurkE
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03/11/26 10:58 AM ET
But former president Torgersen had to mitigate the Beamer/Weaver debacle **
-- TomTurkey
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:10 AM ET
TomTurkey
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03/11/26 10:10 AM ET
Me too. I really liked him.**
-- MP4VT2004
Mar 11, 2026 at 09:56 AM ET
MP4VT2004
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03/11/26 09:56 AM ET
JJ's teams were so bad...**
-- VT Pez4Life
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:56 AM ET
VT Pez4Life
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03/11/26 08:56 AM ET
He needs a rabbits foot or an exorcist
-- hokiepro
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:29 AM ET
hokiepro
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03/11/26 08:29 AM ET
In today's market, yes he is worth the 3 mil.
-- VTCALS72
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:28 AM ET
VTCALS72
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03/11/26 08:28 AM ET
NIL will not make CMY a better coach
-- Jethro Tull
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:25 AM ET
Jethro Tull
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03/11/26 08:25 AM ET
That's is well said friend..
-- jecvtmgr
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:04 AM ET
jecvtmgr
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03/11/26 10:04 AM ET
Better players don't make better coaches? See Tony Elliott
-- VTCALS72
Mar 11, 2026 at 08:33 AM ET
VTCALS72
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03/11/26 08:33 AM ET
Yeah, Jethro has recency bias
-- Walkin` Willie
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:56 AM ET
Walkin` Willie
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03/11/26 10:56 AM ET
Exactly, way too many think any coach at VT should be able to make the
-- VTCALS72
Mar 11, 2026 at 11:58 AM ET
VTCALS72
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03/11/26 11:58 AM ET
Isn't CMY the one saying "that's on me". It's like a broken record
-- Jethro Tull
Mar 11, 2026 at 04:00 PM ET
Jethro Tull
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03/11/26 04:00 PM ET
You had me until your last sentence.**
-- saret
Mar 11, 2026 at 12:16 PM ET
saret
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03/11/26 12:16 PM ET
I hope they extend Elliott for 10 years. Mox too!
-- Jethro Tull
Mar 11, 2026 at 10:22 AM ET
Jethro Tull
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03/11/26 10:22 AM ET