We got it right once... we hired Buzz. Now hoops game has changed (NIL) and we either don't care, or according to a lot of folks here act like some podunk small time operation that can't compete 'just because' . BS, VT alum base is way bigger than numerous higher performing programs with higher starting and mid-career salaries. The issue if we can't compete is of our own doing, and that is fundraising and accessing our alum base. I'm hoping new initiatives are changing that cause the old guard was not getting it done.