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VT ChemE 1986

I don't disagree with your numbers, but my point of emphasis was different

My point was that both Alleyne and MJ Collins seemed to shoot and miss at the wrong times in game situations. Neither had a sense for their impact on the game and when it made sense to shoot. Fans pointed this out. Alleyne took his ball and went home. MJ Collins seems to be changing his game to adapt to his ability. This is my perspective. Perhaps you can explain better what I am trying to say.
Posted: 02/22/2024 at 10:44 AM ET
(In response to this post by Chris Coleman)

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Nahiem Alleyne...
Arch72Hokie • 02/22/24 09:34 AM ET
He has a ring, and we're doubting him? Maybe he wanted a chance at a title?
reece4vt • 02/23/24 11:01 AM ET
uhh...this is kind of a sad, and a 'lil depressing thread.**
hokienole • 02/23/24 01:50 AM ET
He took a chance in trying to move up and simply "failed". That is his
FLKEYSHOKIE • 02/22/24 06:45 PM ET
Alleyne has not failed**
GCHokie34 • 02/23/24 09:54 AM ET
Alleyne has had the most interesting career of any VT player ever..
soflahokie • 02/23/24 09:02 AM ET
"Poor decision"? LOL He has a NC ring. **
ancient alien 2018 • 02/22/24 08:31 PM ET
He made a poor decision moving on from UConn …OR it wasn’t his decision
hokiepro • 02/23/24 08:29 AM ET
Misunderstood your post. Sorry, and I agree.**
ancient alien 2018 • 02/23/24 04:34 PM ET
i'm guessing he was told to move on i'd have to think. Cause why leave**
VT Pez4Life • 02/23/24 09:18 AM ET
He was a rotation player for a National Title team.**
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 07:22 PM ET
What a run he's had, ACC Championship in dramatic fashion, then a Natty
baumerj • 02/22/24 02:30 PM ET
The college version of Robert Horry if you will?**
6thStreetHokie • 02/22/24 05:15 PM ET
Big Shot Bob**
millmtnhokie • 02/22/24 05:57 PM ET
My buddy, a UCONN fan, said that the coaching staff pushed him out.
Foxhall Hokie • 02/22/24 12:39 PM ET
Naheim Alleyne faced the same issues as MJ Collins
VT ChemE 1986 • 02/22/24 10:32 AM ET
Collins’ last defensive game vs UVA was better than any defensive game I
hokiepro • 02/23/24 08:39 AM ET
Recency bias here. Alleyne had plenty of high quality D games.
marcbvtgm • 02/23/24 01:52 PM ET
I sorta see the similarity, but when did Collins' shooting "come"?
marcbvtgm • 02/22/24 01:30 PM ET
Collins has been shooting well the past couple weeks.`
VictoryTurkey • 02/22/24 06:53 PM ET
He has? He's shot >33% in 3 of last 12 games. Above 20% in 1 of past 5
marcbvtgm • 02/23/24 01:57 PM ET
In his last 5 games going back to the beginning of February, he's shooting
Nortazhokie • 02/22/24 07:11 PM ET
Let's hear your expert opinion on his defense, assists and TO's as well. As
ancient alien 2018 • 02/22/24 08:35 PM ET
No, he was simply addressing someone's wishful narrative with facts.**
marcbvtgm • 02/23/24 01:58 PM ET
WTH are you blabbing about? I was just responding with FACTS about his
Nortazhokie • 02/22/24 08:38 PM ET
He was a 38.7% three-point shooter at Tech.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 10:39 AM ET
Nahiem was a glove on defense
tallahasseehokie • 02/22/24 04:23 PM ET
The biggest "knock" on Alleyne for me
Vippie1 • 02/22/24 01:59 PM ET
Had Alleyne stayed we would have been an NCAA team last year and this year
VT One • 02/22/24 01:08 PM ET
He's certainly someone who is more valuable in MYs system than elsewhere**
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 01:39 PM ET
VT is an NCAA tourney team this year and last year if Alleyne had stayed
vtbball80 • 02/22/24 10:46 AM ET
I don't disagree with your numbers, but my point of emphasis was different ◄
VT ChemE 1986 • 02/22/24 10:44 AM ET
I'm not sure if I would say that about Collins.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 10:55 AM ET
I maybe do this at some point but seems to me that Collins has a decent %
nkhooch • 02/24/24 12:29 AM ET
Collins just needs a quick Physics lesson
Jwunderdog • 02/23/24 03:16 PM ET
Yep. Our opponents are generally pleased when the ball is in MJ's hands.
MidloHokie • 02/22/24 09:32 PM ET
For some reason CMY is giving him the green light
VT ChemE 1986 • 02/22/24 10:58 AM ET
I think MJ's free throw totals of 25-of-27 (92.6%) are a crazy stat.
Will StewartAdmin • 02/22/24 12:17 PM ET
I was told he is very good, and "lights it up" in practices.**
804Hokie • 02/22/24 12:43 PM ET
Maybe he's a sharpshooter with nobody guarding him? He may win every game
Nortazhokie • 02/22/24 12:37 PM ET
From that standpoint, he is very similar to Alleyne.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 12:31 PM ET
Yeah, I've heard he's better in practice than he has been during games.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 11:31 AM ET
We’ve seen glimpses vs UL, Duke, UNC of what I’ve heard about him doing in
hokiepro • 02/23/24 08:36 AM ET
Well he does see MJ in practice every day
HokieAl • 02/22/24 11:03 AM ET
Hard to fault a guy that is ACC and National Champ
WildTurkE • 02/22/24 10:30 AM ET
He was getting the Pedulla treatment in some ways behind the scenes.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 10:04 AM ET
What’s the Pedulla treatment?**
Pride_and_Joy • 02/22/24 10:20 AM ET
Abuse from fans via social media and DMs when he has a "bad" game.
Will StewartAdmin • 02/22/24 10:54 AM ET
What is a DM?**
mghokie • 02/23/24 01:58 PM ET
Direct Message.**
Will StewartAdmin • 02/23/24 02:10 PM ET
Thanks! I would never have guessed that one!**
mghokie • 02/23/24 02:14 PM ET
Legalized gambling => likely causing trouble in college sports.**
seacain • 02/22/24 10:30 PM ET
Wow disgusting and sick***
sacramento hokie • 02/22/24 09:27 PM ET
That is just sad and poor. **
GBOHokie • 02/22/24 08:33 PM ET
Yup...and people are gonna be pissed
tylerhokie • 02/22/24 06:21 PM ET
I’ve been complaining about how we on this board treat certain players
VPI63 • 02/22/24 01:11 PM ET
Just to be clear, this board is not harsh at all
Pride_and_Joy • 02/22/24 06:49 PM ET
This board is a cakewalk compared to social media at large.**
NokieHokie • 02/22/24 03:00 PM ET
I doubt our board is any worse than other school’s message boards.
NC Hoke • 02/22/24 01:48 PM ET
So if the other boards jumped off a bridge....would you? ;-)
vthokieq • 02/22/24 04:30 PM ET
We’re no better than any other fan base.
Pride_and_Joy • 02/23/24 08:29 AM ET
Irrelevant to my post.
vthokieq • 02/23/24 08:32 AM ET
Of course we should all try to be better.
Pride_and_Joy • 02/23/24 08:40 AM ET
Oy vey! 🤦‍♂️**
vthokieq • 02/23/24 08:43 AM ET
People are crazy. **
Pride_and_Joy • 02/22/24 11:29 AM ET
You'd love to see these nutcases kicked out of school and
WildTurkE • 02/22/24 11:55 AM ET
It could very well be trolls that have no link to the school.
NC Hoke • 02/22/24 01:45 PM ET
Much more likely it is people with a betting interest...
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 03:02 PM ET
That's exactly what I was thinking.
MP4VT2004 • 02/22/24 07:05 PM ET
It's definitely this
Zanderhokie • 02/23/24 09:51 AM ET
A lot of people sending hate aren’t even fans. They’re people who bet on
jfrance41 • 02/22/24 12:10 PM ET
People that bet significant money on college bball are financial idiots....
vtbball80 • 02/22/24 06:01 PM ET
If that's the case, the issue would be every transfer school and not just
6thStreetHokie • 02/22/24 01:23 PM ET
Sorry for the late response but VT “fans” have been giving him crap
jfrance41 • 02/22/24 08:41 PM ET
Just bet the over on turnovers. (ducks)**
Pride_and_Joy • 02/23/24 12:10 PM ET
^^^^ THIS ^^^^**
Windows NT • 02/22/24 01:16 PM ET
Ridiculous!
NokieHokie • 02/22/24 10:55 AM ET
Also saw that Maddox is coming off the bench at GM. He was 0-7 last night
millmtnhokie • 02/22/24 09:41 AM ET
He's been injured, I think.**
marcbvtgm • 02/22/24 01:34 PM ET
I assumed he was. Thanks **
millmtnhokie • 02/22/24 02:03 PM ET
Maddox has started all 22 games for GMU**
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 10:01 AM ET
He did not start last night**
millmtnhokie • 02/22/24 10:10 AM ET
He also didnt play against GWU and Davidson. So maybe injury
HokieRat • 02/22/24 11:06 AM ET
He's didn't start last night.**
YBYSAIAHokie • 02/22/24 10:09 AM ET
Then it would be the first game he hasn't started all season
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 10:14 AM ET
19 minutes off the bench last night.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/22/24 10:19 AM ET
He was coming back from injury. He’s been a key player for them**
jfrance41 • 02/22/24 11:14 AM ET
He had been playing/scoring really well last 5-6 games.
millmtnhokie • 02/22/24 10:31 AM ET
John Ojiako averaging 12ppg and 10rpg in 26 min at Coastal Carolina...
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 09:59 AM ET
Always looking for greener pastures...
HokieJack • 02/22/24 09:41 AM ET
If the new school fans aren't saying they're going to murder him...
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 11:08 AM ET
That can't be more than 1 or 2 fans that said that and isn't indicative of
YBYSAIAHokie • 02/22/24 12:21 PM ET
Not sure what the argument here is...
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 12:40 PM ET
Wouldn’t same thing happen other places? This isnt VT specific issue **
AnotherTechW • 02/22/24 03:53 PM ET
In theory it could...
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 04:18 PM ET
How do we even know they aren’t our rivals fans? Fake accounts are common.**
Stech • 02/22/24 04:40 PM ET
This is exhausting...
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 04:46 PM ET
I believe they got them 100%, but I have an extensive marketing background,
Stech • 02/22/24 05:09 PM ET
Eh I disagree that it’s a matter of “training”. College athletes shouldn’t
AbsolutVT03 • 02/22/24 10:28 PM ET
I wish they didn’t have to deal with it too, but it’s happening everywhere.
Stech • 02/23/24 09:04 AM ET
Exhaustion not meant for you specifically and I appreciate it
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 05:16 PM ET
Spot on, we do have some 🥜 in the Hokie Nation, like all fan bases. I
Stech • 02/22/24 07:46 PM ET
I don't have any VT-specific contacts that could make that call
GCHokie34 • 02/22/24 09:49 PM ET
Good Lord, did we really have 'fans' that did that? Pathetic. **
amazng_grace • 02/22/24 11:59 AM ET