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HokieHoopzThe2nd

He’s not gonna get minutes over Kidd and Kidd isn’t even that good…

This staff needs to be in win-now mode. That’s the way college sports works. You go all-in each season to put out the best you can and live with the results. No more recruiting players and developing them for 3 and 4 years and out-systeming squads.
Posted: 01/19/2024 at 10:08 AM ET
(In response to this post by VT ChemE 1986)

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I’m seeing teams have 250K NIL per roster spot
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 07:24 AM ET
VT's issue in NIL currently for bball - and these things are changing...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 01:49 PM ET
To add to that, we were/are stabilizing a competitive NIL "budget/pool" for
VTScoop • 01/19/24 02:25 PM ET
I think a better way to view it is that a portal addition that other P5's..
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 01:41 PM ET
Is that Hunter Dickinson level start or Long/Beran level starter for 150K?**
HokieRat • 01/19/24 06:55 PM ET
Long/Beran with Nickel being over twice that. Dickinson is getting…
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 07:55 PM ET
if someone paid either of them 150k this year....oof. fleeced**
HokieRat • 01/19/24 09:14 PM ET
Where are you seeing that? Source for that info is important.**
Will StewartAdmin • 01/19/24 11:50 AM ET
Will after Cam Spencer transferred to UConn the Rutgers collective was
millmtnhokie • 01/19/24 01:22 PM ET
Thought I had read Ed Cooley’s contract at Gtown included like
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 12:21 PM ET
They enticed him with an NIL pool but his contract isn't public and...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 01:43 PM ET
Not sure that is something you would want to put in a contract since NIL
Femoyer Hokie • 01/19/24 12:54 PM ET
Georgetown and Rutgers do not have $3.25 million in NIL...
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 09:49 AM ET
If Rutgers' NIL fund had 3.25 million it would never get to the players.**
jrc3rd • 01/19/24 07:14 PM ET
Georgetown isn't THAT far away from that and Rutgers is doing ok as well...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 01:39 PM ET
It's important to distinguish between...
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 01:50 PM ET
Sure, it just depends on what the context of the conversation is - is it...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 02:19 PM ET
100%
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 02:30 PM ET
Sounds like you need a collective and an alumni base that will just pay
atlhokie1 • 01/19/24 05:27 PM ET
What about Miami?Wasn't Ruiz handing out 6 figures?$400K just to Pack,Wong
HokieBrazil • 01/19/24 01:15 PM ET
Sure!
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 01:28 PM ET
I was told by a very good source that High Point has $2 million in NIL.
Will StewartAdmin • 01/19/24 11:53 AM ET
HP's president is a former Wall Street hedge fund manager with LOTS of the
ancient alien 2018 • 01/19/24 04:17 PM ET
you mean like the math emporium circa 1990s?**
proudhokie2001 • 01/19/24 04:37 PM ET
So do we have an idea on what VT's NIL "allotment" is for MBB?
HokieSA • 01/19/24 02:00 PM ET
I think that is what they consider their "pool" to be - that isn't what...
Cvillehoops13 • 01/19/24 01:45 PM ET
I would be shocked if it's actually 2 million...
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 01:01 PM ET
Not surprised, HPU's president is extremely well connected.
HokiesChemicals • 01/19/24 12:57 PM ET
My nephew graduated from there last year. He's spoiled. Just sayin. **
8hokie5 • 01/19/24 05:19 PM ET
Steve Wozniak is Innovator in Residence
WildTurkE • 01/19/24 01:23 PM ET
Really?
Vippie1 • 01/19/24 10:08 AM ET
Football possibly?
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 11:07 AM ET
top 15 football is 10million annually plus and its not
proudhokie2001 • 01/19/24 12:58 PM ET
You say "reportedly"
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 01:04 PM ET
Incorrect, numbers came from actual people coaching actual players.
proudhokie2001 • 01/20/24 08:22 AM ET
I dont know
Vippie1 • 01/19/24 11:25 AM ET
I would be surprised if blue-blood basketball programs like UK or Duke
Zanderhokie • 01/19/24 11:31 AM ET
A dozen boosters giving $250k -$300k at UK
Vippie1 • 01/19/24 11:38 AM ET
The depth of the rosters at those places is overblown...
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 12:57 PM ET
present some evidence that it is overblown? I think year to year its
proudhokie2001 • 01/19/24 04:32 PM ET
There's reason for everyone involved to inflate their numbers
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 04:44 PM ET
Roster situation for next season
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 07:43 AM ET
Wessler wasn't supposed to be ready to play until next year
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/19/24 10:04 AM ET
He’s not gonna get minutes over Kidd and Kidd isn’t even that good… ◄
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 10:08 AM ET
Kidd isn’t even that good? Wow. You just blew all your credibility.
YBYSAIAHokie • 01/19/24 10:33 AM ET
Have you seen him vs decent talent?**
marcbvtgm • 01/19/24 05:46 PM ET
Kidd is averaging 8 points per game over his last 5 ACC games. He scored 2
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 10:36 AM ET
You're cherry-picking your stats. Look at the whole body of work, son.
YBYSAIAHokie • 01/19/24 10:48 AM ET
He’s basically a mid-major all-conf center, but barely mid-pack P5.
marcbvtgm • 01/19/24 05:47 PM ET
performance against ACC tier (and NCAA tier) competition is what matters
ShockWaveVT • 01/19/24 11:05 AM ET
Win now / no development is not a sustainable model.**
TheFacts • 01/19/24 10:29 AM ET
That’s the only model available now in this era.
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 10:32 AM ET
The whole thing is a mess.....
2hhoop3 • 01/19/24 02:15 PM ET
just wait until the courts eliminate all transfer restrictions the NCAA has
ShockWaveVT • 01/19/24 11:06 AM ET
Wessler was brought in specifically on a 3 yr path.
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/19/24 10:12 AM ET
So, ummm, one minor issue there... ;)**
I love VT! • 04/21/24 05:34 PM ET
We’re going to try and retain everyone except maybe Camden if he graduates
soflahokie • 01/19/24 09:59 AM ET
Don't Poteat and Kidd have a COVID year if they want it?
YBYSAIAHokie • 01/19/24 10:38 AM ET
That is correct**
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 11:10 AM ET
You can transfer twice now without sitting out a year
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 10:04 AM ET
Young's seat is room temp**
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/19/24 10:08 AM ET
It’s room temp now. If and when we fail to even make the NIT?
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 10:09 AM ET
Yeah, that's not true**
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 11:11 AM ET
We will not make the NIT this year and that will have no impact on CMY
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/19/24 10:14 AM ET
You're forgetting Jones and Johnson...**
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 09:50 AM ET
I don't know much about Johnson. What position will he play?
YBYSAIAHokie • 01/19/24 10:53 AM ET
Johnson is ideally a 4 that could eventually play on the wing...
GCHokie34 • 01/19/24 11:20 AM ET
honestly I would keep them all
grtmmt • 01/19/24 07:57 AM ET
We’d miss Collins. He’s a good player not a good shooter YET but a good
hokiepro • 01/19/24 07:53 AM ET
& we also miss Rodney Rice**
VTCC 65 • 01/19/24 12:51 PM ET
I think about Rice a lot - I know we don't/won't know all the ins and outs
hokiehill1117 • 01/19/24 03:10 PM ET
Collins will never be able to score consistently, but that's OK
VT ChemE 1986 • 01/19/24 10:10 AM ET
Him missing shot after shot has been a big reason we are where we are IMO**
HokieHoopzThe2nd • 01/19/24 08:04 AM ET
He doesn’t take that many**
hokiepro • 01/19/24 11:32 AM ET
MJ Collins is like this team's version of Bede
kingofcassell • 01/19/24 09:36 AM ET
funny you say that because I've had that thought before
chagerma • 01/19/24 12:33 PM ET
Collins is quicker and more explosive than Bede. Bede was....
vtbball80 • 01/19/24 12:30 PM ET
MJ and Pedulla are like polar opposite basketball players
Zanderhokie • 01/19/24 11:35 AM ET
I'd say Collins and Nickel are the polar opposites**
vtbball80 • 01/19/24 12:23 PM ET