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You have kind of mixed two points together here which I think is part of

the reason for confusion in some of the replies. NIL not actually being tied to endorsements or appearances is not unique to international students so bringing it into the discussion muddies the waters. You are mixing criticisms of amateur athletes and NIL with specific problems about international players. And that's fine but it does mean some people might latch on to one part of the argument or the other. As far as your main point about visas go I think calling it "blatant fraud" also hurts your point. That's a pretty charged term to use especially since it doesn't seem like it's fraud in the legal sense of things. Instead it comes across as you feeling very strongly about something and making hyperbolic statements because of that. Similarly you have said that you don't "blame" Avdalas and others but the first sentence and subsequent posts and points certainly could be interpreted that way. For example, you think they should remedy the problem themselves instead (by asking for a work visa) instead of looking to the various governing bodies to fix it. Put another way, it's not Avdalas' fault that he's able to come here on a student visa. He's working with the framework that currently exists. The bottom line is as long as college athletes (foreign or otherwise) are still treated and classified as students then there's not really much that can be done. You might not consider them students but that doesn't make it true. And until something changes from an official/legal perspective there's no incentive for players or schools to change how they operate.
Posted: 04/08/2026 at 08:42 PM ET
(In response to this post by HokieBrazil)

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The Avdalas thing asking for 3 million bothers me.As a former international
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 11:48 AM ET
That's what NIL is essentially in this current form.
DanNUandVT 04/08/26 10:51 PM ET
You have kind of mixed two points together here which I think is part of
AbsolutVT03 04/08/26 08:42 PM ET
Good post.**
saret 04/09/26 09:20 AM ET
He’ll get 1.5 max **
DK and Cubby 04/08/26 06:27 PM ET
Kentucky will pay that for him, $3M out of what’s probably a $20M roster**
soflahokie 04/08/26 06:22 PM ET
nice salary there for a bench warmer**
Windows NT 04/08/26 07:43 PM ET
the way Neo played much of this season, not sure
lazarus1 04/08/26 03:02 PM ET
I am once again asking...**
DoYouLiftHokies 04/08/26 02:31 PM ET
Why are we fooling ourselves with the concept of Studeny Athlete anymore?
VT20 04/08/26 12:48 PM ET
Plenty of VT sports still have genuine student-athletes**
UpperQuad 04/08/26 02:58 PM ET
Yes,majority of the athletes outside Football and MBB are legit student
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 05:18 PM ET
Agreed, that's why I added (in the major sports)**
VT20 04/08/26 04:53 PM ET
The way Title IX, other federal laws, and maybe even state laws are
VTHokie2000 04/08/26 05:30 PM ET
he's still a student of the game. definitely not an athlete**
Windows NT 04/08/26 01:15 PM ET
If you found a way to receive money and someone offered you $3 million...
GCHokie34 04/08/26 12:25 PM ET
It never hurts to ask......
2hhoop3 04/08/26 01:02 PM ET
I don't blame him,I clearly said good for him there are suckers willing to
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 12:59 PM ET
We all know NIL is fake, it's pay for play. Does F1 visa allow student to
icelus 04/08/26 03:22 PM ET
Only when they are physically in their home country.So let's say Avadalas
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 05:16 PM ET
You didn't have that luxury because you didn't have something...
GCHokie34 04/08/26 01:46 PM ET
You are missing the main point about international players and visas. **
40ozDistrict 04/08/26 06:05 PM ET
Avdalas hasn’t shown $3m/year performance ability to me
hokiepro 04/08/26 05:41 PM ET
No one....not a single one...
GCHokie34 04/08/26 05:59 PM ET
Maybe we should have never brought him to VT to begin with. And better
JM397 04/08/26 07:55 PM ET
Just couldn't resist that last sentence, could you?**
saret 04/08/26 06:35 PM ET
Love your posts here, but I think you missed original posters main issue
Scream_On_D 04/08/26 01:54 PM ET
Legit question - is Neo coming to VT to play basketball taking away another
hokiehill1117 04/08/26 02:14 PM ET
It all depends on the embassy,there isn't necessarily a quota/limit set by
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 02:17 PM ET
Exactly,I've repeated it over and over again that good for him he is
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 02:13 PM ET
I happily encourage you to turn them in
GCHokie34 04/08/26 04:51 PM ET
The difference is that if I had that skill I would have to switch to a work
HokieBrazil 04/08/26 05:23 PM ET
And Im going to again tell you there is a loophole...
GCHokie34 04/08/26 05:57 PM ET
Once again, you're deflecting. I don't think @HokieBrazil is
saret 04/08/26 06:33 PM ET
Every single one of my posts is arguing he isnt misusing the process**
GCHokie34 04/08/26 07:29 PM ET
Yes, they do. Then you keep talking about everything else.
saret 04/08/26 08:17 PM ET
Because everything else is related...**
GCHokie34 04/08/26 09:25 PM ET
No, you're just browbeating an infrequent poster who
saret 04/08/26 10:19 PM ET
Brazil, you're letting @GCHokie34 , frame the issue.
saret 04/08/26 05:36 PM ET
Board life is a hard windy road.
GoldCoast 04/08/26 07:21 PM ET
That wasn’t his point at all…**
BioVTjunkie 04/08/26 12:53 PM ET
It bothers me as someone who sent there kid to VT with a total cost of
JoseyWales 04/08/26 12:08 PM ET
Its the entertainment business **
VaTechHokiesACC 04/09/26 05:32 AM ET
it shouldn't bother you that someone in this country gets paid for the work
Scream_On_D 04/08/26 02:01 PM ET
That's true for revenue sharing, not this NIL collective BS. Fans are
icelus 04/08/26 03:27 PM ET
Most athletic departments don't make money. They are being paid in food
JoseyWales 04/08/26 02:29 PM ET
If this athletic department doesn't get straightened out, guess what?
Snape 04/08/26 01:46 PM ET
As someone who has worked for a living my whole life...
GCHokie34 04/08/26 12:27 PM ET
Life isn't fair **
VaTechHokiesACC 04/09/26 05:32 AM ET