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Have to hope for a separation. The P2 needs to go on their own. Not NASCAR
as NASCAR still has Ford vs Chevy vs Toyota for a lot of us. Drivers are only relevant as to which brand they are driving. For NCAA these are college attending athletes demanding exorbitant money to play where they will get paid. No allegiances, no commitment, no team, nothing but pure greed. It's over. The only way we recover is for the P2 to separate and the remaining 90+ football and whatever number of bball schools get back to somewhat normal, organized, regional, student athlete system. NIL will always be there but more subdued in the "lower" classification. If this happens the P2 league will likely lose appeal as a NFL minor league. A one and done youth basketball league. The new lower league will be the dominant media market as it will align with the majority of college sports fans.
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I am hearing from coaches, it's no longer COACHING, it's NEGOTIATING, none
-- Stech
Dec 27, 2024 at 09:00 PM ET
Stech
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12/27/24 09:00 PM ET
Why would they have been fired for criticizing the NCAA?**
-- marcbvtgm
Dec 30, 2024 at 05:46 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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12/30/24 05:46 PM ET
Good point, I changed it to penalized, but you missed the forest for a tree**
-- Stech
Dec 30, 2024 at 06:02 PM ET
Stech
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12/30/24 06:02 PM ET
Barney Oldfield crashed out against Hunter Carpenter in 1929**
-- Newt
Dec 28, 2024 at 10:09 PM ET
Newt
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12/28/24 10:09 PM ET
LOL!! 95% of posters have no idea who at least one of those men are, but
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 28, 2024 at 10:52 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/28/24 10:52 PM ET
Mrs. Newt and I worked the summer (1985) at the Kern County, CA Museum
-- Newt
Dec 29, 2024 at 04:15 PM ET
Newt
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12/29/24 04:15 PM ET
Amazing stuff!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 29, 2024 at 09:28 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/29/24 09:28 PM ET
we're doomed, DOOMED I say (says Dr. Smith)**
-- lazarus1
Dec 28, 2024 at 07:18 PM ET
lazarus1
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12/28/24 07:18 PM ET
Nice Lost in Space pull!
-- Buzzardlip
Dec 28, 2024 at 09:46 PM ET
Buzzardlip
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12/28/24 09:46 PM ET
Building Cassell Coliseum on an abandoned graveyard/pet cemetery
-- KCHokie2
Dec 28, 2024 at 08:43 PM ET
KCHokie2
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12/28/24 08:43 PM ET
LOL!! "We're as doomed as doomed can be" Ed Grimley. SCTV**
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 28, 2024 at 08:33 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/28/24 08:33 PM ET
NIL will simply narrow the list of viable contenders a bit more AND make
-- HokiePokie95
Dec 28, 2024 at 05:54 PM ET
HokiePokie95
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12/28/24 05:54 PM ET
Also increases the number of middle-ocre programs.**
-- marcbvtgm
Dec 30, 2024 at 05:47 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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12/30/24 05:47 PM ET
There's probably been some sort of negotiating going on for decades
-- YBYSAIAHokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 02:26 PM ET
YBYSAIAHokie
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12/28/24 02:26 PM ET
Some, correct, whole new level right now, which is why Championship Coaches
-- Stech
Dec 28, 2024 at 02:49 PM ET
Stech
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12/28/24 02:49 PM ET
I'm sure, but those same coaches made millions from this. They could have
-- Hokie 04
Dec 28, 2024 at 09:50 AM ET
Hokie 04
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12/28/24 09:50 AM ET
Speak for yourself, I'm not a victim. I'll either watch or I won't. If a
-- BG Hokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 01:11 PM ET
BG Hokie
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12/28/24 01:11 PM ET
No doubt, Jimbo Fisher getting 75 million dollars for being fired, is nuts!
-- Stech
Dec 28, 2024 at 10:15 AM ET
Stech
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12/28/24 10:15 AM ET
i'd be shocked if CMY isn't one of the next in line to follow larranaga**
-- squarerootofone
Dec 28, 2024 at 09:32 AM ET
squarerootofone
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12/28/24 09:32 AM ET
I love CMY but his style of coaching and recruiting is just not a fit with
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 29, 2024 at 12:46 AM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/29/24 12:46 AM ET
Congress will have to get it done. The spineless dweebs at the NCAA will
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 28, 2024 at 11:00 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/28/24 11:00 PM ET
The "spineless NCAA" is the symptom
-- Walkin` Willie
Dec 29, 2024 at 03:57 PM ET
Walkin` Willie
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12/29/24 03:57 PM ET
We are the government - we are here to help. **
-- AnotherTechW
Dec 29, 2024 at 07:09 AM ET
AnotherTechW
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12/29/24 07:09 AM ET
Yes, the feds will ultimately be the end game.
-- RJHokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 11:05 PM ET
RJHokie
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12/28/24 11:05 PM ET
And yes, that's definitely the downside!!**
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 29, 2024 at 12:35 AM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/29/24 12:35 AM ET
What point in college athletics history wasnt controlled by the most money?**
-- GCHokie34
Dec 28, 2024 at 04:46 PM ET
GCHokie34
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12/28/24 04:46 PM ET
Duke has deeeeeep pockets **
-- millmtnhokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 12:14 PM ET
millmtnhokie
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12/28/24 12:14 PM ET
It is all very fixable but it will take a LOT of cooperation
-- Vippie1
Dec 28, 2024 at 08:21 AM ET
Vippie1
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12/28/24 08:21 AM ET
I don't sense a crash, probably just a slow decline in a lot of fandom from
-- BG Hokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 06:17 AM ET
BG Hokie
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12/28/24 06:17 AM ET
Gradually, then suddenly...**
-- marcbvtgm
Dec 30, 2024 at 05:49 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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12/30/24 05:49 PM ET
Have to hope for a separation. The P2 needs to go on their own. Not NASCAR
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-- 40ozDistrict
Dec 27, 2024 at 11:48 PM ET
40ozDistrict
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12/27/24 11:48 PM ET
That probably makes it even worse in my opinion. Fans, ratings, etc. of the
-- BG Hokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 06:25 AM ET
BG Hokie
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12/28/24 06:25 AM ET
The lower programs would still be the feeder programs for the big schools. **
-- hokieblitz
Dec 28, 2024 at 01:51 AM ET
hokieblitz
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12/28/24 01:51 AM ET
College has always been a feeder for pro sports. The P2 is just a new,
-- NC Hoke
Dec 28, 2024 at 04:48 PM ET
NC Hoke
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12/28/24 04:48 PM ET
that's where MY has a problem
-- VermontDDS
Dec 27, 2024 at 10:59 PM ET
VermontDDS
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12/27/24 10:59 PM ET
He should go coach at one of the academies.**
-- OrlandoHokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 02:33 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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12/28/24 02:33 PM ET
He’s not alone either. Lot’s of coaches are in the same boat.**
-- NC Hoke
Dec 28, 2024 at 12:50 AM ET
NC Hoke
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12/28/24 12:50 AM ET
I'll probably be dead before college sports recovers, if it ever does.**
-- VT72
Dec 27, 2024 at 10:57 PM ET
VT72
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12/27/24 10:57 PM ET
The stock market did recover though. **
-- IB4TECH
Dec 27, 2024 at 09:05 PM ET
IB4TECH
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12/27/24 09:05 PM ET
Unfortunately, the Western Dolphins never did.
-- KCHokie2
Dec 27, 2024 at 09:28 PM ET
KCHokie2
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12/27/24 09:28 PM ET
25 years for the Dow to reclaim its previous high in 1929.**
-- Stech
Dec 27, 2024 at 09:11 PM ET
Stech
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12/27/24 09:11 PM ET
The high was grossly inflated. **
-- IB4TECH
Dec 28, 2024 at 07:42 PM ET
IB4TECH
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12/28/24 07:42 PM ET
That's because there weren't laws in place to prevent a crash.
-- YBYSAIAHokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 02:36 PM ET
YBYSAIAHokie
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12/28/24 02:36 PM ET
Correct on Stock Market, but we don’t have those laws or checks & balances
-- Stech
Dec 28, 2024 at 02:56 PM ET
Stech
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12/28/24 02:56 PM ET
Good points. NCAA has a lot of work to do to put those checks & balances
-- YBYSAIAHokie
Dec 28, 2024 at 03:46 PM ET
YBYSAIAHokie
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12/28/24 03:46 PM ET