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Sorry to maybe hijack the thread but have a few thoughts as to uva/vt

In grand scheme of convo below on funding. I think Tech and uva have gone two seperate approaches and I think each are in danger (as is everyone else apart from SEC and select Big10s). Tech has gone football (funding/focus). Uva has gone Olympic (namely everything but football wrt funding/focus). Uvas attempts at revitalizing football isn’t doing too much (uva is 3-1 in football and not many care, I digress). Pablo Torre did an interview with the US diving coach talking about how now that schools will pay athletes, programs are going to cut “losses” - IE the Olympics (swimming, diving, tennis, FHockey, etc) and direct all money towards football. I think uva has gone really all in on ensuring these programs while tech has wagered football success will equate to saving these programs. Ultimately, assuming both uva and Tech make the P3 (uva to big10 is most likely, Tech to Big12 is most likely TODAY), I think both suffer BEFORE the NCAA enters into a CBA with football. I am worried about techs ability to survive right now with how the football program is moving. A ton of money invested with results not coming so far and at arguably the most crucial time ever. Uvas only saving grace is what GC mentioned (and others) is that donor funding will buoy the athletics department until the ncaa/federal government corals this out of control industry. Ultimately once the loss of Olympic sports starts happening on a wide scale (various programs have begun cutting swimming and diving, etc). I think we will see that real push to get back to a “controlled” industry where football is king, but all sports are able to thrive. But I think all the discussions below are an argument of a bigger issue that both uva and Tech are facing, in entirely different ways. Will be a very interesting year to see how both programs continue. I think unfortunately tech has no choice but to keep dancing with the one you brought - football.
Posted: 09/24/2024 at 12:36 PM ET
(In response to this post by VT ChemE 1986)

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I vote to divert our NIL money to BB. The FB experiment is over.**
VT ChemE 1986 09/22/24 03:09 PM ET
Announce that at the sold out football game 🙈$$$$$**
jagerhokie 09/25/24 04:43 PM ET
MBB, WBB, Softball, Wrestling. **
40ozDistrict 09/24/24 09:10 PM ET
And if the AD tried to shift that money to other than football, ...
Atlee Hokie 09/24/24 03:56 PM ET
My ultimate thought about TV money and conference alignment...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 03:15 PM ET
That's basically what the Supreme Court case in the early 80s was about.
Chris ColemanAdmin 10/03/24 07:40 AM ET
Can't see VT having much negotiating room at the present with FB or BB.**
atlhokie1 09/25/24 08:54 PM ET
Honestly it would be pretty similar to what they currently have
GCHokie34 09/25/24 09:19 PM ET
Didn't Texas already do that with the Longhorn Network?**
hoosnowahokie 09/24/24 03:26 PM ET
Sort of! But yeah, along those lines**
GCHokie34 09/24/24 03:29 PM ET
Sorry to maybe hijack the thread but have a few thoughts as to uva/vt
wahoo2023 09/24/24 12:36 PM ET
Yes, I think VT ultimately cuts some sports. Very interested to see how
hoosnowahokie 09/24/24 03:31 PM ET
The irony is it is the “wine and cheese” crowd
wahoo2023 09/25/24 09:29 AM ET
I think UVA is closer to right than VT at this stage
VT ChemE 1986 09/24/24 02:51 PM ET
UVA is cutting some fat, its T/F is cutting 13 positions because of NIL
HokieRat 09/24/24 02:28 PM ET
Great debate below.......
2hhoop3 09/24/24 12:35 PM ET
Did you ever read the book "good to great"? Food for thought. **
ColoVT82 09/24/24 02:38 PM ET
I have not read......
2hhoop3 09/24/24 02:47 PM ET
I do feel like privately, WB would tell you he's trying to find a glide
WildTurkE 09/24/24 12:59 PM ET
While football is disappointing, the numbers say we need to stick with it
HokieAl 09/23/24 08:53 PM ET
Football has been horrible...for a while
GCHokie34 09/23/24 09:19 PM ET
That's the point. Bad football is bringing in $68m in revenue.
HokieAl 09/23/24 09:41 PM ET
If you're of the opinion that there's a football product VT can reach...
GCHokie34 09/23/24 09:54 PM ET
How are you making that jump from my post? I never said top 20 in revenue
HokieAl 09/23/24 10:08 PM ET
I say that because here's the thing...
GCHokie34 09/23/24 10:41 PM ET
I do not believe your first line.
Atlee Hokie 09/24/24 09:23 AM ET
The argument is you can't play "good competitive football" on a y2y basis
GCHokie34 09/24/24 09:28 AM ET
What are the issues other schools don't have to contend with?
hokeyhokie 09/24/24 09:01 AM ET
Geography, population, demographic...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 09:11 AM ET
Wasn't VTs athletic dept financiallly competitive with other major schools
hokeyhokie 09/24/24 01:21 PM ET
To answer the other part of your point...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 02:56 PM ET
What do you believe.........
2hhoop3 09/24/24 03:10 PM ET
You know all those commercials we've seen in the past year
hoosnowahokie 09/24/24 03:33 PM ET
Being a bully...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 03:18 PM ET
I agree .........
2hhoop3 09/24/24 03:29 PM ET
Every conference has its own Twitter, IG etc.
GCHokie34 09/24/24 05:14 PM ET
Perhaps........
2hhoop3 09/24/24 05:29 PM ET
Recruiting was regional then...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 02:48 PM ET
WADR, this argument is a broken record..
VPI63 09/24/24 12:59 PM ET
Anyone know how Frank Beamer addressed TikTok with his players?**
GCHokie34 09/24/24 02:41 PM ET
Nebraska athletics exceeded $200M in FY23
huskerHokie 09/24/24 11:39 AM ET
Virginia Tech has "limitations" in its athletic budget**
huskerHokie 09/24/24 11:47 AM ET
Lincoln, Nebraska...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 11:46 AM ET
Graduates stay in Nebraska? Funny!
huskerHokie 09/24/24 11:51 AM ET
How many graduates have the ability to stay in Blacksburg even if they want**
GCHokie34 09/24/24 11:58 AM ET
There are opportunities, people just don't want to live in a place
hoosnowahokie 09/24/24 03:25 PM ET
I think you're spot on
GCHokie34 09/24/24 03:28 PM ET
How many Nebraska graduates have to opportunity to stay in Nebraska?**
huskerHokie 09/24/24 12:04 PM ET
About 7 times as many as VT...**
GCHokie34 09/24/24 12:06 PM ET
Where are you getting your data from? UVA and Indiana are not top 15 in rev
HokieAl 09/23/24 11:21 PM ET
Your point is true, especially what sport department is gonna raise profile
HokieRat 09/24/24 10:39 AM ET
USAToday**
GCHokie34 09/24/24 08:50 AM ET
Their database is wrong. It has 2021 data copied in 2022 for all schools
HokieAl 09/24/24 09:15 AM ET
True, the actual numbers are inside...
Chris ColemanAdmin 09/24/24 09:30 AM ET
I love your analogy. So are we actually hurting our competitiveness by
Femoyer Hokie 09/24/24 10:03 AM ET
In my opinion yes
GCHokie34 09/24/24 11:11 AM ET
I think this is where the discussion diverges. It's a matter of perspective
HokieAl 09/24/24 11:57 AM ET
This is the crux of the debate. Well put. **
Pride_and_Joy 09/26/24 06:41 AM ET
That's more of a one-time thing for UVA.
Chris ColemanAdmin 09/24/24 08:59 AM ET
As you stated...
GCHokie34 09/24/24 09:19 AM ET
Yeah, definitely agree there.
Chris ColemanAdmin 09/24/24 09:26 AM ET
Fundraising at VT is very complicated for sure. Sometimes I think very
VTDC 09/24/24 09:47 AM ET
The way the HC has been run for DECADES is CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE.**
NokieHokie 09/24/24 09:35 AM ET
Here's the thing, both of you are actually arguing the same thing...
Gobbler-100 09/24/24 12:44 AM ET
I fear GC is right on this one
SC_Hokie 09/23/24 11:41 PM ET
I support this 100%.**
4dhokies 09/23/24 05:36 PM ET
Nope.**
VTaimhigh 09/23/24 04:01 PM ET
Arguments pro and con
win-tech 09/23/24 12:45 PM ET
Duke has a better chance of being invited to the SEC
WildTurkE 09/23/24 12:59 PM ET
I would suggest reading some of conference realignment board
HokieAl 09/23/24 07:07 PM ET
Not a prayer.**
VTaimhigh 09/23/24 04:00 PM ET
I think you are very wrong but time will tell**
Hokie83 09/23/24 03:55 PM ET