I think it's a fair question.
It's interesting that so many fans insist that there's no way for VT to compete with B10 or SEC programs because they have so much more money and so many advantages from being in a P2 league... but those same fans are willing to make excuses when VT does worse than teams with far smaller budgets and far less attractive league affiliations.
In the specific cases mentioned (Buchanan going to GW, Rice possibly going to ODU) it's not just a case of players leaving for an easier path at a lower level of competition. It's also a misalignment between the coach's eval of a player and the player's belief in himself.
Many have pointed out that player movement is the standard these days, and that's correct. VT is no different, nor should we expect it to be. The problem comes when that revolving door is pushing out more-talented players than the guys who are coming in.
Thread Replies (30)
Sincere question about losing players to GW and (possibly) ODU.
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:45 AM ET
TDVick
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03/02/24 05:45 AM ET
Has UVAs recruiting picked up since winning the national championship?**
-- GCHokie34
Mar 03, 2024 at 04:27 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/03/24 04:27 PM ET
I think so? I don't really follow their recruiting.
-- CPVT3
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:15 PM ET
CPVT3
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03/03/24 11:15 PM ET
Kind of an odd team tho. Great coach. Weird system that works when it works**
-- CPVT3
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:31 PM ET
CPVT3
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03/03/24 11:31 PM ET
Plus they already have basketball pedigree**
-- CPVT3
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:32 PM ET
CPVT3
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03/03/24 11:32 PM ET
Players often follow their primary recruiters/assistant coaches out the
-- NC Hoke
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:17 PM ET
NC Hoke
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03/02/24 05:17 PM ET
Isn't one of the old tropes that sports are a way out of a bad area?
-- Hokie 04
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:04 PM ET
Hokie 04
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03/02/24 05:04 PM ET
That is an ACC schools’s recruiting pitch
-- Hokie1992
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:52 PM ET
Hokie1992
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03/02/24 05:52 PM ET
It's important to make some distinctions here...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:03 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/02/24 12:03 PM ET
I agree with everything you wrote. I think one reason for our ceiling is
-- jrc3rd
Mar 02, 2024 at 02:43 PM ET
jrc3rd
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03/02/24 02:43 PM ET
Va has had plenty of good players over time. We just haven't gotten many.
-- UEMcGill
Mar 02, 2024 at 04:51 PM ET
UEMcGill
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03/02/24 04:51 PM ET
I think we agree. By mediocre I meant average. VA is lacking in the
-- jrc3rd
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:56 PM ET
jrc3rd
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03/02/24 05:56 PM ET
"VT has a ceiling when it comes to national success". Key realization here.
-- 40ozDistrict
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:50 PM ET
40ozDistrict
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03/02/24 12:50 PM ET
Not me. Buzz played the game by the unwritten rules, most of which are
-- Maroon Effect
Mar 02, 2024 at 03:51 PM ET
Maroon Effect
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03/02/24 03:51 PM ET
Pre-NIL and still not natty c'ship caliber. **
-- 40ozDistrict
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:39 PM ET
40ozDistrict
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03/02/24 05:39 PM ET
I think it's a fair question.
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-- Gobbler Guru
Mar 02, 2024 at 10:56 AM ET
Gobbler Guru
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03/02/24 10:56 AM ET
You can have randomness and some bad breaks, but it seems that with a
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 11:59 AM ET
TDVick
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03/02/24 11:59 AM ET
It's hard to beef up the bench when guys 'want playing time. Just look at
-- UEMcGill
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:40 PM ET
UEMcGill
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03/02/24 12:40 PM ET
I would suggest a slightly different perspective
-- HokieAl
Mar 02, 2024 at 09:05 AM ET
HokieAl
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03/02/24 09:05 AM ET
Yep JMU squeaked by UVA by 1**
-- hokiepro
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:36 PM ET
hokiepro
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03/02/24 12:36 PM ET
You are correct that ex-ante, no one has a crystal ball, but with transfers
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:14 PM ET
TDVick
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03/02/24 12:14 PM ET
Also... GW and ODU aren't better than VT
-- Whiskeyandfootball
Mar 02, 2024 at 01:32 PM ET
Whiskeyandfootball
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03/02/24 01:32 PM ET
I'd revise that to "slightly below average in basketball"
-- WildTurkE
Mar 02, 2024 at 01:39 PM ET
WildTurkE
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03/02/24 01:39 PM ET
What effective players have traded down?**
-- GCHokie34
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:18 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/02/24 12:18 PM ET
Maddox and Buchanan. But you made a good point that I hadn't really
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:24 PM ET
TDVick
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03/02/24 12:24 PM ET
Buchanan didn't play a single minute at VT...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:27 PM ET
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03/02/24 12:27 PM ET