Sincere question about losing players to GW and (possibly) ODU.
My guess is that Mike Jones is a charismatic guy and maybe that plays a role, but I start of by trying to evaluate things as if VT is punching at it's weight. Sure I'd like to see us be exceptional, but it really angers me when I see obvious messes and fixable shortcomings that don't get addressed or cleaned up.
I also take this view when comparing the resource gap between the ACC versus the Big 10 and SEC. I don’t want to sound too much like a complete VT homer, but shouldn’t VT be able to dominate GW and ODU in personnel? Am I wrong in thinking that the gap between VT versus GW and ODU is as wide or wider as the gap between the SEC and the ACC? In which case VT has no business losing effective players to those schools.
Instead it looks like those schools are more attractive than VT. Even if Blacksburg isn’t an easy place to recruit to, neither is Manhattan KS, Iowa State or Creighton or other places that have solid rosters. Shouldn’t we be doing better? Perhaps someone can give me a solid take on this. Because to me this looks like another fixable mistake that isn’t being fixed. Is this view being unrealistic and cranky?
This is basically the same argument I make asking why is JMU better than us in football? It annoys me to see this. When I see schools outperforming us that have lower ceilings than us I attribute this to mismanagement. Is this not fair?
I think that Mike Young is an excellent coach, hopefully VT can find a way to retain effective players that leave for GW or ODU.
This seems like a simple fix.... so let's fix it!
Posted: 03/02/2024 at 05:45 AM ET
Thread Replies (30)
Sincere question about losing players to GW and (possibly) ODU.
◄
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:45 AM ET
TDVick
•
03/02/24 05:45 AM ET
Has UVAs recruiting picked up since winning the national championship?**
-- GCHokie34
Mar 03, 2024 at 04:27 PM ET
GCHokie34
•
03/03/24 04:27 PM ET
I think so? I don't really follow their recruiting.
-- CPVT3
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:15 PM ET
CPVT3
•
03/03/24 11:15 PM ET
Kind of an odd team tho. Great coach. Weird system that works when it works**
-- CPVT3
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:31 PM ET
CPVT3
•
03/03/24 11:31 PM ET
Plus they already have basketball pedigree**
-- CPVT3
Mar 03, 2024 at 11:32 PM ET
CPVT3
•
03/03/24 11:32 PM ET
Players often follow their primary recruiters/assistant coaches out the
-- NC Hoke
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:17 PM ET
NC Hoke
•
03/02/24 05:17 PM ET
Isn't one of the old tropes that sports are a way out of a bad area?
-- Hokie 04
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:04 PM ET
Hokie 04
•
03/02/24 05:04 PM ET
That is an ACC schools’s recruiting pitch
-- Hokie1992
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:52 PM ET
Hokie1992
•
03/02/24 05:52 PM ET
It's important to make some distinctions here...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:03 PM ET
GCHokie34
•
03/02/24 12:03 PM ET
I agree with everything you wrote. I think one reason for our ceiling is
-- jrc3rd
Mar 02, 2024 at 02:43 PM ET
jrc3rd
•
03/02/24 02:43 PM ET
Va has had plenty of good players over time. We just haven't gotten many.
-- UEMcGill
Mar 02, 2024 at 04:51 PM ET
UEMcGill
•
03/02/24 04:51 PM ET
I think we agree. By mediocre I meant average. VA is lacking in the
-- jrc3rd
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:56 PM ET
jrc3rd
•
03/02/24 05:56 PM ET
"VT has a ceiling when it comes to national success". Key realization here.
-- 40ozDistrict
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:50 PM ET
40ozDistrict
•
03/02/24 12:50 PM ET
Not me. Buzz played the game by the unwritten rules, most of which are
-- Maroon Effect
Mar 02, 2024 at 03:51 PM ET
Maroon Effect
•
03/02/24 03:51 PM ET
Pre-NIL and still not natty c'ship caliber. **
-- 40ozDistrict
Mar 02, 2024 at 05:39 PM ET
40ozDistrict
•
03/02/24 05:39 PM ET
I think it's a fair question.
-- Gobbler Guru
Mar 02, 2024 at 10:56 AM ET
Gobbler Guru
•
03/02/24 10:56 AM ET
You can have randomness and some bad breaks, but it seems that with a
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 11:59 AM ET
TDVick
•
03/02/24 11:59 AM ET
It's hard to beef up the bench when guys 'want playing time. Just look at
-- UEMcGill
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:40 PM ET
UEMcGill
•
03/02/24 12:40 PM ET
I would suggest a slightly different perspective
-- HokieAl
Mar 02, 2024 at 09:05 AM ET
HokieAl
•
03/02/24 09:05 AM ET
Yep JMU squeaked by UVA by 1**
-- hokiepro
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:36 PM ET
hokiepro
•
03/02/24 12:36 PM ET
You are correct that ex-ante, no one has a crystal ball, but with transfers
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:14 PM ET
TDVick
•
03/02/24 12:14 PM ET
Also... GW and ODU aren't better than VT
-- Whiskeyandfootball
Mar 02, 2024 at 01:32 PM ET
Whiskeyandfootball
•
03/02/24 01:32 PM ET
I'd revise that to "slightly below average in basketball"
-- WildTurkE
Mar 02, 2024 at 01:39 PM ET
WildTurkE
•
03/02/24 01:39 PM ET
What effective players have traded down?**
-- GCHokie34
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:18 PM ET
GCHokie34
•
03/02/24 12:18 PM ET
Maddox and Buchanan. But you made a good point that I hadn't really
-- TDVick
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:24 PM ET
TDVick
•
03/02/24 12:24 PM ET
Buchanan didn't play a single minute at VT...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 02, 2024 at 12:27 PM ET
GCHokie34
•
03/02/24 12:27 PM ET