If the goal is to evaluate teams in the most accurate way possible...
...margin of victory must be included. A system based off of just wins and losses but blind to efficiency/actual scores has way bigger issues than any problem people have with the NET. I do have some quibbles with the NET it is BY FAR the best way the committee has evaluated teams in its history. It is a tool that is really only asked to be accurate at the very end of the season yet it is evaluated constantly during the season.
I also think talking heads that haven't done the mock selection put too much emphasis on just Quad 1. From the people who advise schools on this AND the journalists who have done the mock selection it's pretty common to hear that the bigger point of discussion is performance in the top 2 quadrants vs. performance in the bottom 2 and then those are looked at more specifically (quad 1 wins carrying more value, quad 4 losses being more damning etc). VT is on the outside looking in right now because this team has had a good number of chances to beat good teams and just hasn't done it. 1-6 in Quad 1 and 4-8 in the first two quadrants isn't great. Fortunately the Hokies have avoided bad losses and have more chances to gain good wins but this weekend is a BIG one for that.
** Edited by Cvillehoops13 at 1/31/2024, 3:26:52 PM
Thread Replies (44)
NET nonsense: Today’s edition: Clemson wins but not by enough
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 09:33 AM ET
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01/31/24 09:33 AM ET
Maybe it should be the most wins at the least number of points
-- VTCALS72
Feb 03, 2024 at 10:10 AM ET
VTCALS72
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02/03/24 10:10 AM ET
How else do you want to judge?
-- HokiesACC2004
Jan 31, 2024 at 06:33 PM ET
HokiesACC2004
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01/31/24 06:33 PM ET
I think honestly they should average the RPI & NET;
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 06:36 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 06:36 PM ET
I don't think there is any case to use RPI...
-- Cvillehoops13
Feb 01, 2024 at 11:11 AM ET
Cvillehoops13
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02/01/24 11:11 AM ET
Do you think they realized the big discrepancy some would see
-- hokiepro
Feb 01, 2024 at 11:53 AM ET
hokiepro
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02/01/24 11:53 AM ET
I don't think there is any use in evaluating the NET until the end...
-- Cvillehoops13
Feb 01, 2024 at 02:21 PM ET
Cvillehoops13
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02/01/24 02:21 PM ET
Makes sense; seems NET can be “gamed” as a conference too
-- hokiepro
Feb 01, 2024 at 03:43 PM ET
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02/01/24 03:43 PM ET
If the goal is to evaluate teams in the most accurate way possible...
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-- Cvillehoops13
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:18 PM ET
Cvillehoops13
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01/31/24 03:18 PM ET
But wouldn't that just make teams go for blowouts?
-- VTCALS72
Feb 03, 2024 at 10:04 AM ET
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02/03/24 10:04 AM ET
I agree that NET is an improvement over RPI. However, the Quad system needs
-- HokieEngineer
Jan 31, 2024 at 06:20 PM ET
HokieEngineer
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01/31/24 06:20 PM ET
Yes, treating it as a continuous variable is better
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 06:30 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 06:30 PM ET
Both, but meant just as much as…
-- Cvillehoops13
Feb 01, 2024 at 07:58 AM ET
Cvillehoops13
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02/01/24 07:58 AM ET
I don't know the NET formulae very well but I too don't understand
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:52 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 03:52 PM ET
It’s about how OOC resumes are viewed
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:03 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 04:03 PM ET
The committee does what it wants.**
-- VTCALS72
Feb 03, 2024 at 10:06 AM ET
VTCALS72
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02/03/24 10:06 AM ET
SOS is part of NET so isn't that already factored into the ranking?
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:13 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 04:13 PM ET
Obviously it’s not factored in as heavily as efficiency in OOC
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:28 PM ET
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01/31/24 04:28 PM ET
And why should SOS be weighted more than efficiency? **
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:34 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 04:34 PM ET
More than anything it’s an opinion BUT
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 05:16 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 05:16 PM ET
They have. In a positive direction, IMO **
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 06:27 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 06:27 PM ET
Wow, when did we lose 2 more games??**
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:22 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 03:22 PM ET
Corrected, sorry was doing some hypotheticals and of course didn't reset...
-- Cvillehoops13
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:27 PM ET
Cvillehoops13
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01/31/24 03:27 PM ET
Efficiency is essentially adjusted for quality of opponent and location
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:40 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 04:40 PM ET
The problem is that because the NET is used to just be based on this year..
-- Cvillehoops13
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:34 PM ET
Cvillehoops13
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01/31/24 03:34 PM ET
If we woulda beaten the cocks and FSU we ain’t worrying bout no NET
-- HokieHoopzThe2nd
Jan 31, 2024 at 02:31 PM ET
HokieHoopzThe2nd
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01/31/24 02:31 PM ET
I wish the tournament would just go to 128 teams
-- OrlandoHokie
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:01 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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01/31/24 12:01 PM ET
The regular season is already meaningless
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:52 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 12:52 PM ET
The regular season obviously isn’t “meaningless” when relatively recent
-- hokiepro
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:54 PM ET
hokiepro
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01/31/24 03:54 PM ET
"Meaningless" is a strong term. "Not compelling might be a better phrase.
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 04:04 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 04:04 PM ET
Hang on one second...
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:58 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 03:58 PM ET
Isn't the NCAA tournament more about gambling now? Too big to fail.**
-- WildTurkE
Jan 31, 2024 at 12:04 PM ET
WildTurkE
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01/31/24 12:04 PM ET
Actually for keeping interest in VTMBB 68 is ideal
-- Vippie1
Jan 31, 2024 at 01:18 PM ET
Vippie1
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01/31/24 01:18 PM ET
The one that really pisses me off is Nova
-- ReasFordHoo
Jan 31, 2024 at 10:49 AM ET
ReasFordHoo
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01/31/24 10:49 AM ET
Every year there is a team with a resume that makes it VERY difficult...
-- Cvillehoops13
Jan 31, 2024 at 03:23 PM ET
Cvillehoops13
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01/31/24 03:23 PM ET
Yup,Nova sucks.Both VT and UVA would beat Nova right now,this is not Jay
-- HokieBrazil
Jan 31, 2024 at 02:35 PM ET
HokieBrazil
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01/31/24 02:35 PM ET
In the NET system, does a 10 point win
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 10:16 AM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 10:16 AM ET
Well, efficiency ratings are built in...
-- Chris Coleman
Jan 31, 2024 at 10:37 AM ET
Chris Coleman
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01/31/24 10:37 AM ET
Thanks Chris. That's helpful.
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jan 31, 2024 at 10:49 AM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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01/31/24 10:49 AM ET
If only they would have beat Duke (:
-- MVIII
Jan 31, 2024 at 09:47 AM ET
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01/31/24 09:47 AM ET