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Casey

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I like watching Indiana smash teams out *because* they are so freaky good.

They probably won't be this dominant next year. People will talk about this 2025 Indiana team like they talk about the '85 Chicago Bears.

Congrats to your team for a great season.

I remember how fun it was to be a VT fan when we first started jumping up and biting the big dogs in the ass. You know, the old days.

I know they are our rival

But I was pulling for them. I like it when the SEC is reminded that good college football does exist outside of their little club.

Indeed

Feel a little bad for UVA, but *legitimate* playoff teams would never lose to Duke.

If Duke and JMU are in the playoffs

and teams with a real shot at wining it all, like ND, Miami, or Texas are out, what does that say about the current playoff system? I thought this was supposed to be superior to the bowl system for determining a MNC, but I'm not so sure.

I thought conference champs got an automatic bid, no?

Miami deserves to be in though. Looked it up. They *might* get left out, but if they win the ACC, I hope not. ** Edited by Casey at 11/29/2025, 11:10:48 PM

Gotta agree. 1992 was as terrible a season on paper

But I don't remember us just getting embarrassed like we did tonight. Not even when #1 Miami came to town

Well, congratulations to the Hoos on a magical season..

No one expected this from them, and that must make it feel so much sweeter. I would put this on LeSabre, but I've been banned from posting over there for 20+ years now.

Agree

He is a ball player. Let him play.

Relax. PSU just wasn't challenging enough for him

He will be better with a smaller budget and weaker recruiting classes.

Given the cost of a college education has been outpacing inflation

For about 35 years, would think schools would focus on making it more affordable for kids from working/middle class families, but nope. Gotta have that shiny new stadium and the multi-million dollar coach that will be fired as soon as he underperforms (but the school will still be on the hook for his buyout.) College football has become such an ugly business.

I wasn't suggesting we hire Bud

but I think regardless of who we hire, mediocrity is the best we can hope for. The football landscape has changed, creating greater separation between the haves and the have-nots, and we are one of the have-nots. That is fine with me. I will always have love for VT, regardless of how good the football team is. This also frees up my Saturdays for other activities.

It is that thinking that got us to this point.

But Bud's moment has passed and he isn't coming out of retirement anyway.. I don't expect us to be able to compete with SEC teams, but I don't think it's too much to ask that we at least keep it competitive with Sun Belt teams.

If there is anything still impressive about VT football

It's how many fans that still show up to watch us get slapped around by mediocre teams.

You're *****ung about me making an observation

The irony. I guess there isn't much for old-timers to do besides watch television.

Watching Arkansas State vs. Bowling Green

Really drives home the point that there are just too many bowl games

PSU v. SMU was over early

And nothing was on the line for Clemson and Texas. Both were in the playoffs regardless of how the ACC champ game played out.

Not to mention, it d oesn't seem other organizations looked to see what

Else was going on today. We have college football playiffs, the NFL, college basketball, and Usyk vs. Fury II.

Especially considering the cost of higher ed has outpaced inflation

For about 35 years. Current students are already paying more for a degree than any generation before them. They shouldn't be forced to subsidize semi-pro sports on top of that.

Maybe i just imagined it

But i think i just saw a Cal cheerleader that looked like she could play OL.

So there is a bowl game in the Bahamas now.

Nice this time of year. ACC should drop a cold climate bowl and try to get in on that. I mean, if we are going to the NobodyCares Bowl, might as well do it at some place that has nice weather and sandy beaches. ** Edited by Casey at 12/11/2024, 9:42:49 PM

Can't even really consider football players Hokies

They are just mercenaries, chasing playing yime and/or NIL money. No loyalty to any one school.

Law of large numbers and all.

Small samples can have weird results, but the larger the sample, the closer it gets to "truth."

Maybe we should start following non-NIL sports

Is our baseball team any good? Lacrosse? Isn't badminton an olympic sport now? Maybe we could get one of those going. At least we know most of them will be Hokies from beginning to end.

At least the sports that big money has corrupted

Instead, take that money and invest it in the smaller sports, where the athletes are true student-athletes, and not mercenaries that major in sports.

That must be including grant money in addition to base salary

or he has a side-hustle, like statistical consulting. If your son wants to make real money, he should steer clear of academia, as it is very rare for professors being that highly paid. ** Edited by Casey at 12/2/2024, 1:37:20 PM ** Edited by Casey at 12/2/2024, 1:39:05 PM

That is exceedingly high, even for a full professor

Full professors at private doctoral institutions make the most, averaging around $225k per year. Full professors average below 200k a year, even at elite public institutions like the University of Texas at Austin. Also varies by major. Professors in business or law tend to be the highest paid, while those in the arts or humanities tend to make the least. Keep in mind it typically takes a long time to make full professor and not something anyone can realistically hope to achieve before they are 40. Also, the era of most professors on campus being tenured has gone the way of the dodo bird. In a cost saving measure, much of the teaching load is handed off to non-tenured (adjunct) professors, who work on a contractual basis (which can be terminated at any time) and are paid a pittance. Which begs the question, where is all this money going? As always, the head football coach is typically the highest paid person at a university, by far. Some things I picked up after being in that world for a while.

Can be very cost saving

Which matters, as the cost of higher education has outpaced inflation for the last 35 years. A student does his first two years at a loal community college, saving a lot of money, and does the last two years at a four year university. Something has to be done about these runaway costs, and these pathways from two year schools to four-year public (and sometimes private) schools are just one way states are dealing with it.

Makes sense courses should transfer

It's not like they teach some secret physics at schools with high admission standards that students at open admission schools aren't privy to.