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Cal, Stanford and SMU can certainly provide their comments/thoughts re: ND and the ACC. They are members, regardless of whether you like it or not. ND folks, while certainly venting frustrations, have nothing to blame except their not being in ACC football conference. If they wanted the ACC to support them, then they would join. I am no Miami fan, but I am completely supportive of the ACC promoting them for the playoff as opposed to ND.

Did we all know how it ended in Cincinnati with Babcock? They seemed to work their way up to be included in the Big12 conference compared to their previous conference affiliation. I don't think Babcock, Sands and the BOV were aiming to destroy a great program. What we had is a program that had been declining since before Beamer left the head coach position (remember the Wake Forest debacle?). I don't know about you but I think the thought at the time we hired Fuente was pretty positive. When we hired Pry we wanted someone that understood Tech. Most people thought he was risky but definitely understood Tech. While Pry understood VT, ultimately he wasn't able to bring the W's needed. Don't subscribe to the revisionist history that folks are try to promote here. You want to fire Babcock? Fine...but don't act like he made ridiculous decisions that nobody liked. Fire Sands? I guess so, but he is pretty far away from the athletic department decisions (and they are not, and should not be his first priority).

I agree....I think this would be a reasonable ask of ND...would they be willing to play 6 games against the expanded ACC?...Goldendomer, any thoughts from your perspective?