Within :30…neither did the opponent. And just like targeting in football and other “flagrant” rulings that can affect outcomes…it’s still troublesome that it can be like that. At least in basketball for example…if a foul is called at the end of a tie game at least the other team has to do something (make a FT) to win It’s just like arguing that rideouts are a bad way to decide a match. Same with PKs at end of soccer matches. Why not just keep wrestling until someone wins via live action takedown All that said… thank you for the explanations. Your post was great until the last 2-3 sentences that were unnecessary. And no, I won’t GTFOH unless Will decides he doesn’t want me supporting VT or these forums any longer. I hope Hipolito learns and comes back to A-A because he’s exciting to watch.