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Not dismissing what you are saying as I think on the whole, that's true,
but that phenomenon isn't unique to VT, yet it is our wrestlers who, relative to their competition, seem stagnant.
To Fstalker's point, Caleb never looks to keep it close and win with a TD. Even in a 1-0 win vs Lovett in the NCAA semis, Caleb was attacking and working his offense. Sam and Andy are often like this but don't have the same skillset to dominate like Caleb does. But, that is how Sam has been able to knock off elite talent throughout his career. Mullen has some of it. TJ at his best can wrestle this way. Hip has a different style but he is aggressive. Church is working but doesn't have top end talent and is still growing into 165.
What we're really talking about is Eddie, Brady, Wolak, Catka and recently Mekhi. No idea why Wolak is so flat-footed this year. Eddie lacks confidence to be more attacking, IMO. Brady and Catka - I have no idea why their talent never fully materialized. Mekhi - I think he fell back on what he was most comfortable doing (counter wrestling) and because it was good enough to win, he didn't continue to develop. But, he never seemed out of shape or winded at the end of matches. He was grinding.
After we took it to Missouri and Rutgers, and had a pretty good showing at CKLV, this looked like a promising season. However, the luster has definitely worn off now.
Eddie - won't AA if he doesn't get more aggressive
McG - hasn't shown he's AA caliber in what little we've seen
Sam - fringe AA; has it in him but it's a longshot
Caleb - AA lock if healthy
Hip - still think putting in an AA run is a stretch but he'll be a threat in every match
Mac - would be a success if he qualifies for AA
Lennox - watching him this year, it is shocking that he is a returning AA. He is just fundamentally not good on his feet.
TJ - we've seen what he has capable of but as of now it's not there. His performance is like those HR hitters on PEDs compared to those without it. Not at all suggesting he was on PEDs last year, but what I mean is the juice isn't there.
Andy - fringe AA but a lot will need to go right for him
Jimmy - does some things so well but is still a little weak for HWT; has AA potential though
Thread Replies (32)
Your thesis is incorrect. You wrote.....
-- HokieJay
Jan 13, 2025 at 12:13 PM ET
HokieJay
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01/13/25 12:13 PM ET
It's almost like trying doesn't equal accomplishing.**
-- Pylons
Jan 11, 2025 at 08:51 PM ET
Pylons
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01/11/25 08:51 PM ET
So there's a lot to unpack here...
-- Nafeikoh
Jan 11, 2025 at 11:42 AM ET
Nafeikoh
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01/11/25 11:42 AM ET
All the matches matter... the only people that say these matches don't
-- Palmetto Hokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 11:06 AM ET
Palmetto Hokie
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01/12/25 11:06 AM ET
How to say I know nothing about wrestling without saying it
-- Hokie havoc
Jan 12, 2025 at 11:16 AM ET
Hokie havoc
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01/12/25 11:16 AM ET
Tell that to PSU and Okie State.
-- PalmHokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 11:59 AM ET
PalmHokie
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01/12/25 11:59 AM ET
EV was a 27 seed when he AAd. And Henson lost twice last year.**
-- TartanHokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 06:45 PM ET
TartanHokie
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01/12/25 06:45 PM ET
PSU and OSU guys will lose their spot if they don't bring their A game
-- donjfs3
Jan 12, 2025 at 05:55 PM ET
donjfs3
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01/12/25 05:55 PM ET
Starocci is 78-4 in his career. Washington and Kemerer freshman year.
-- TartanHokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 06:59 PM ET
TartanHokie
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01/12/25 06:59 PM ET
Thanks for the stat corrections.
-- PalmHokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 08:04 PM ET
PalmHokie
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01/12/25 08:04 PM ET
We really need to stop comparing ourselves to Penn State.
-- TartanHokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 07:17 PM ET
TartanHokie
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01/12/25 07:17 PM ET
Nobody is expecting us to replicate PSU we just want to see the attitude
-- donjfs3
Jan 12, 2025 at 10:32 PM ET
donjfs3
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01/12/25 10:32 PM ET
It's not just in wrestling
-- UpperQuad
Jan 12, 2025 at 08:12 AM ET
UpperQuad
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01/12/25 08:12 AM ET
thanks! I appreciate your opinion. Well written too. **
-- pine52x
Jan 11, 2025 at 06:27 PM ET
pine52x
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01/11/25 06:27 PM ET
I agree with what both of you
-- Fstalker
Jan 11, 2025 at 02:50 PM ET
Fstalker
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01/11/25 02:50 PM ET
Andy isn’t Caleb and Caleb isn’t Andy.
-- GreenvilleVT
Jan 11, 2025 at 06:58 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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01/11/25 06:58 PM ET
Not dismissing what you are saying as I think on the whole, that's true,
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-- goodbadugly
Jan 11, 2025 at 01:59 PM ET
goodbadugly
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01/11/25 01:59 PM ET
I don't see Hip as a stretch at all
-- Hikinghokie
Jan 12, 2025 at 01:56 PM ET
Hikinghokie
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01/12/25 01:56 PM ET
I’ll worry about TJ when the effort or fire isn’t there.
-- GreenvilleVT
Jan 11, 2025 at 07:03 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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01/11/25 07:03 PM ET
Why is he wrestling at all then?
-- tigerpark135
Jan 12, 2025 at 02:47 PM ET
tigerpark135
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01/12/25 02:47 PM ET
Maybe he is recovered and is building back.
-- GreenvilleVT
Jan 12, 2025 at 02:50 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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01/12/25 02:50 PM ET
There are also a great deal more examples of wrestlers continuing to
-- GreenvilleVT
Jan 12, 2025 at 06:45 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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01/12/25 06:45 PM ET
Sure. I agree but he’s gonna need to start winning or he’s at risk to not
-- goodbadugly
Jan 11, 2025 at 09:03 PM ET
goodbadugly
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01/11/25 09:03 PM ET
Well said. After Mizzou and Rutgers they had my hopes up
-- hokiepro
Jan 11, 2025 at 02:20 PM ET
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01/11/25 02:20 PM ET