So right. A strong ACC moving forward is critical, and the collection of six teams is not steady. VT and NC State are very strong; Pitt has some legit stars and is getting much better again; UNC had O'Connor and has a couple solid wrestlers like Kane, but otherwise so-so depth; UVA often recruits well and has an occasional star (Mueller) but typically underperforms; and Duke's situation looks really bleak. Like Stanford, Duke has enough money to support 10 wrestling teams without spending anything beyond interest earned on its endowment, but there just doesn't seem to be much support. And unfortunately for Duke, Mr. and Mrs. Finesilver have aged out of the Duke-wrestler-breeding business. I wonder if a merger with the Southern Conference (SoCon) - at least for wrestling - could work for both conferences. Campbell has always had a decent program and App State has been coming on very strong.