Yeah, the more I think about it the more meaningless it becomes...
especially in this era of NIL. Of course every coach has an interview "conversation" at the end of the year and talk out the player's role for next year, The better players might talk about developing a mid-range jump shot, all of them get a picture of where the coach sees them next year and that may include fewer minutes and of course, spreading the NIL around some more: the "hard" conversation.
All of this is simply the reality for every coach, having said that I don't think CMD is inclined to vindictively push someone out, I even think she had an agreement with Whit Babcock and VT to put some emphasis on kids graduating type stuff. (every coach does, right?) So, Kayl took one for the team, a 6' player playing backup 5 for Rose as a freshman and Rose was out for a couple games so Kayl earned a team win there. I mean, I would certainly hope CMD honors stuff like that and if Kayl leaves it's on her own accord, ie, going back to Marquette where she wanted to go orginally (but I don't know)
Little more puzzled about Mackie, we needed the experience but maybe it would be s desultory year for her as coach works in playrs like Sears etc. Again, I dunno, but it looks like go to Clemson play for Poppie who may have recruited her, she'll be the pg for her senior year and Clemson had some NIL to give her on a down year for them.
But yeah, words like "pushed out" "hard conversations" don't really exist (well, maybe in football) as separate things, all just part of the standard process.
** Edited by `lag at 4/29/2026, 8:31:06 AM
Thread Replies (40)
Just as an aside, Kayl and Mackie were at the softball game today...
-- `lag
Apr 26, 2026 at 09:47 PM ET
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04/26/26 09:47 PM ET
Can't blame Kayl. She wants to play
-- MrFantastic!
Apr 27, 2026 at 06:52 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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04/27/26 06:52 AM ET
I've always been a big fan of Ms Kayl...
-- `lag
Apr 27, 2026 at 07:59 AM ET
`lag
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04/27/26 07:59 AM ET
All coaches push some out (just reality, not saying that was the case with
-- Hokie`79
Apr 27, 2026 at 01:29 PM ET
Hokie`79
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04/27/26 01:29 PM ET
The thing about pushing out some, is that all teams will still
-- VAHokie89
Apr 28, 2026 at 11:14 AM ET
VAHokie89
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04/28/26 11:14 AM ET
Yeah, the more I think about it the more meaningless it becomes...
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-- `lag
Apr 29, 2026 at 08:29 AM ET
`lag
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04/29/26 08:29 AM ET
she wants to play more. minutes not here. **
-- MrFantastic!
Apr 27, 2026 at 01:31 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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04/27/26 01:31 PM ET
I'm led to believe there was conflict between Coach & Mackie
-- JHokieD
Apr 27, 2026 at 07:13 AM ET
JHokieD
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04/27/26 07:13 AM ET
Playing PG for a former PG is tough**
-- HokieAllMyLife
Apr 27, 2026 at 10:32 AM ET
HokieAllMyLife
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04/27/26 10:32 AM ET
Unless you're from San Antonio TX
-- TomTurkey
Apr 27, 2026 at 06:06 PM ET
TomTurkey
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04/27/26 06:06 PM ET
Why I think Sears may be perfect fit**
-- MrFantastic!
Apr 27, 2026 at 11:07 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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04/27/26 11:07 AM ET
Sears is a tough hard nosed player like Duffy was in college
-- mrknowitall
Apr 27, 2026 at 12:13 PM ET
mrknowitall
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04/27/26 12:13 PM ET
kind of hoping the latter is the reason...
-- `lag
Apr 27, 2026 at 08:04 AM ET
`lag
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04/27/26 08:04 AM ET
Same here. I liked her personality. Nice kid **
-- JHokieD
Apr 27, 2026 at 12:27 PM ET
JHokieD
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04/27/26 12:27 PM ET
Could be true. That said her minutes were safe. **
-- MrFantastic!
Apr 27, 2026 at 07:18 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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04/27/26 07:18 AM ET
Mackie's minutes were not safe. At all. **
-- King of Hokies
Apr 27, 2026 at 01:03 PM ET
King of Hokies
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04/27/26 01:03 PM ET
And also didn’t Poppie recruit her at least initially
-- hokiepro
Apr 28, 2026 at 06:48 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/28/26 06:48 AM ET
Maybe. And maybe that matters. But as @VAHokie89 and I have pointed
-- King of Hokies
Apr 28, 2026 at 11:06 AM ET
King of Hokies
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04/28/26 11:06 AM ET
Not sure she’s going to a worse team…they made the tourney and have a top
-- hokiepro
Apr 28, 2026 at 03:13 PM ET
hokiepro
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04/28/26 03:13 PM ET
Top 3 in MP, 5 of top 7 gone. 6 of top 7 in scoring gone.
-- King of Hokies
Apr 28, 2026 at 11:05 PM ET
King of Hokies
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04/28/26 11:05 PM ET
Barring portal entries, Clemson lost some key players**
-- VAHokie89
Apr 28, 2026 at 10:08 PM ET
VAHokie89
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04/28/26 10:08 PM ET
Mackenzie was going to still likely start and play alot
-- VAHokie89
Apr 27, 2026 at 03:18 PM ET
VAHokie89
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04/27/26 03:18 PM ET
The other alternative(s) on the team, are in order: Wells and then Sears.
-- King of Hokies
Apr 27, 2026 at 03:52 PM ET
King of Hokies
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04/27/26 03:52 PM ET
You actually don't know what evidence I have
-- VAHokie89
Apr 27, 2026 at 04:40 PM ET
VAHokie89
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04/27/26 04:40 PM ET
Right. In order for VT to reach a higher level, we needed someone much
-- King of Hokies
Apr 27, 2026 at 06:42 PM ET
King of Hokies
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04/27/26 06:42 PM ET
Mind set/ ability to play defense ?? Are you kidding me ? Took more charges
-- uber hokie
Apr 28, 2026 at 10:34 PM ET
uber hokie
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04/28/26 10:34 PM ET
Drawing 1-2 charges a game is not in and of itself an indicator of defense
-- VAHokie89
Apr 29, 2026 at 12:53 PM ET
VAHokie89
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04/29/26 12:53 PM ET
She could penetrate but could not finish **
-- uber hokie
Apr 29, 2026 at 10:57 PM ET
uber hokie
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04/29/26 10:57 PM ET
Even when open from outside she didn't have the confidence to shoot**
-- mrknowitall
Apr 29, 2026 at 06:15 PM ET
mrknowitall
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04/29/26 06:15 PM ET
She could not guard opposing PGs. I don't know how else to say it. Taking
-- King of Hokies
Apr 28, 2026 at 10:53 PM ET
King of Hokies
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04/28/26 10:53 PM ET
Taking charges is like blocking a shot, or for men a nasty dunk. It fires
-- uber hokie
Apr 29, 2026 at 11:08 PM ET
uber hokie
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04/29/26 11:08 PM ET
But she can't guard other PGs! And she's not a threat to
-- King of Hokies
Apr 30, 2026 at 05:59 AM ET
King of Hokies
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04/30/26 05:59 AM ET
You are right - you cant help me.**
-- uber hokie
May 01, 2026 at 12:22 PM ET
uber hokie
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05/01/26 12:22 PM ET
There are some kinds of "help," we don't need 😊**
-- HokieNL
May 01, 2026 at 12:33 PM ET
HokieNL
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05/01/26 12:33 PM ET
Whomever could be gotten in the portal who wasn't as limited.**
-- King of Hokies
Apr 27, 2026 at 01:58 PM ET
King of Hokies
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04/27/26 01:58 PM ET
Things that bother me over starters leaving..
-- MrFantastic!
Apr 27, 2026 at 07:27 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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04/27/26 07:27 AM ET
That does not bother me as much
-- VAHokie89
Apr 27, 2026 at 03:24 PM ET
VAHokie89
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04/27/26 03:24 PM ET
Yes and this upcoming season
-- gcdevilhokie
Apr 27, 2026 at 09:26 AM ET
gcdevilhokie
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04/27/26 09:26 AM ET