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Stech OP
May 15, 2024 at 08:49 AM ET
Dabo outraged one of the proposals is to not allow walk ons, next lawsuitđź”—
as a product of the current lawsuit if it goes through in his opinion. I know some think this will be rectified quickly, at the Basement Podcasters are saying that, but the legal world usually doesn’t work that fast, especially when there are all these counter suits. Explain to me how all of this ends fast. We haven’t seen a suit yet of a school being left out of a Conference. How about that one, do you think it might happen? Or has it already happened with Calimony? Will there be more?

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HokiesACC2004
2024, are walk ons necessary anymore?
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DrHokie
Dabo outraged....
Goodness gracious
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Stech OP
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Hokester
Not allowing walk ons would level the playing field somewhat.
Allowing only 85 on a team would require coaches to be much more selective when recruiting and would be a boon to those who are good at developing players.
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Big12 guy
It would also allow G5 schools to have better rosters.
HokieAl HokieAl
With NIL, walkons are just another way to stack talent
And to get around scholarship limits while they try to find and develop some diamonds in the rough. He obviously knows this. Comes across to me like a tantrum from an old school coach who doesn’t like all the changes happening in his sport. He should go enjoy his salary and his offsite meetings at the Ritz and just coach. Plenty of other college sports have roster limits but also have stricter scholarship limits. So football will be just fine. Either adjust to the new rules or fade away Dabo. ** Edited by HokieAl at 5/15/2024, 9:59:38 AM
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
Limit rosters to somewhere between 70 and 80. And, just a pet peeve of mine
Get rid of duplicate numbers. So dumb.
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Truthahn
I have seen this proposed. It seems workable with the new transfer rules.
Why should team carry so many players when they can reload, and do, from year to year from the portal? It made sense to have so many when you had to depend upon developing recruits, but those days are gone. This is especially true if we have to pay everyone.
reestuart reestuart
This. 1000 times over.
wwhokie1 wwhokie1
Exactly. We've reached our scholarship limit so we can't offer you a
Scholarship this year. But we'll throw in an extra $50,000 in nil as an under the table scholarship. Accomplishes the same as a scholarship, and allows you to have more than 85 "scholarship" players
reestuart reestuart
Exactly. It won't hurt anyone to reduce rosters.
wwhokie1 wwhokie1
Yes. A walk on occasionally earns a scholarship. But that's normally
Considered a bonus, not a need.
reestuart reestuart
Yep. I'm not sure how many walk-ons are truly walk-ons these days
These aren't a bunch of Rudys out there.
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Stech OP
I think it is personal for him, since he was a walk on, sorry I am with him
on this one. I have seen some underrated walk-ons at Virginia Tech and other schools prove a lot of people wrong. I don't understand if someone is paying their own way, why they would try to stop that. However, I think the bigger point in our lawsuit happy country right now, here comes another one. All of these lawsuits are going to slow the heck out of the resolution of just about everything in college sports. One lawsuit, just ties up another one. Many think that the ACC will just settle the cases quickly, but with so much at stake, why would they?
HokieAl HokieAl
True it had a good history. But it’s no longer needed
With the wide open transfer rules, a player can start at a G5 or lower school for a year and then move up to their dream power level school. The opportunity still exists, but in a different form. Now if someone does love VT as a school and also wants to play football here, then they will have to choose. I think it makes sense to leave room for 5-10 walkons while also reducing roster sizes to 90-95 people. Seems like a compromise here would be appropriate. But this is the NCAA so who knows what they will do.
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Stech OP
All good points, I could live with that.
HokieAl HokieAl
Although when I think about all the comments here I wonder
Your point about lawsuits and others mentioning NIL and then of course schools being creative for getting around rules. If the NCAA does this then I could see the next move being from schools to get what they want. If I’m a head coach, I still recruit walkons but have them “train” for a year under the guidance of the NIL collective staff (which include former players and coaches). Maybe even have them sign a one year contractor agreement to get some salary from the NIL while they train. So they get all the benefits of trying out for a team, with the only limit that they can’t practice directly with the team that year. It’s just a normal college student with a job in the eyes of the NCAA. But reality could be a new method to hoard talent if the walkons go away. Just random thinking out loud and speculation on my part.
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Big12 guy
They are looking for a way to control NIL and the transfer portal.
reestuart reestuart
Yeah, if they can't manage it with 85-100 man rosters, they need to find
a new vocation. They're stockpiling talent.