Visual reminder of P2 dominance of the playoff invites
There are 35 teams currently in the P2. This is 26% of the total FBS teams. Those 35 teams have gotten 70% of all the playoff spots from 2015 to 2025.
Which leaves 99 teams (74% of the total FBS teams) competing for just 30% of the playoff spots.
The playoff problem is not the selection committee. That is just a tool they use for the fringe cases. The real problem is the lack of access for 3 out of every 4 FBS schools. The current model is not sustainable.
I suppose you could argue that it is more inclusive compared to the old days of just #1 vs #2. I personally think that is true and it's also true that the current model needs to change.
** Edited by HokieAl at 12/11/2025, 11:52:31 PM
Posted: 12/11/2025 at 11:44 PM ET
Thread Replies (18)
Visual reminder of P2 dominance of the playoff invites
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-- HokieAl
Dec 11, 2025 at 11:44 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/11/25 11:44 PM ET
Change to what? The bowls are the consolation prize.
-- VT ChemE 1986
Dec 12, 2025 at 09:44 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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12/12/25 09:44 AM ET
I think they will go to paying players (NIL opportunities) with
-- Big12 guy
Dec 12, 2025 at 09:54 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/12/25 09:54 AM ET
I'm only talking about the playoffs, not the bowls**
-- HokieAl
Dec 12, 2025 at 09:46 AM ET
HokieAl
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12/12/25 09:46 AM ET
So you want more teams with no chance of
-- VT ChemE 1986
Dec 12, 2025 at 10:06 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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12/12/25 10:06 AM ET
I do. "No chance"? A 16 seed would never beat a 1 seed was
-- Big12 guy
Dec 12, 2025 at 10:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/12/25 10:58 AM ET
More is not better. Football is not basketball
-- VT ChemE 1986
Dec 12, 2025 at 11:03 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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12/12/25 11:03 AM ET
Right. That would be like letting a 7-9 team into the NFL playoffs
-- I85Hokie
Dec 12, 2025 at 02:55 PM ET
I85Hokie
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12/12/25 02:55 PM ET
That is what everyone keeps saying, but I don't buy it. The
-- Big12 guy
Dec 12, 2025 at 11:09 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/12/25 11:09 AM ET
If the bowls are dying, which they are, I think that we have 2 options
-- VT ChemE 1986
Dec 12, 2025 at 11:55 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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12/12/25 11:55 AM ET
Expand the playoffs, and pay players for the other bowls.**
-- Big12 guy
Dec 12, 2025 at 12:52 PM ET
Big12 guy
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12/12/25 12:52 PM ET
And for all the ND talk, they only made the playoff 3 times in 11 years
-- HokieAl
Dec 12, 2025 at 08:18 AM ET
HokieAl
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12/12/25 08:18 AM ET
How many individual teams have made it more than 3 times?**
-- TerryD
Dec 12, 2025 at 12:34 PM ET
TerryD
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12/12/25 12:34 PM ET
Including this year, it looks like...(edited to add 2014)
-- HokieAl
Dec 12, 2025 at 01:23 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/12/25 01:23 PM ET
So, only five teams with more appearances......
-- TerryD
Dec 13, 2025 at 07:21 AM ET
TerryD
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12/13/25 07:21 AM ET
I thought Oregon had at least 3 - 2014, last year and this year**
-- VPI_1998
Dec 12, 2025 at 02:07 PM ET
VPI_1998
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12/12/25 02:07 PM ET
My database is only back to 2015 so far. But you are right
-- HokieAl
Dec 12, 2025 at 02:25 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/12/25 02:25 PM ET