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SEC vs B1G (surprising take from someone who has moved all over)
I moved from NOVA to Charlotte in ‘08 and now it is over-run with people from OH, MI, MN, IA, PA, MD, DC, NY. To a detriment. Go to a Panthers game against the Vikings or Steelers or Green Bay or Bills or Browns…. More opposing fans Granted we suck right now, but the Vikings, Pats, Jets, Bills, Packers, Giants, Lions, Bears (AFC/NFC North) literally take over Bank of America Stadium regardless of record. It’s because Charlotte is a transplant city.
So I just recently moved from Charlotte NC to Charleston SC (tiny compared to CLT). Charleston SC is “Low Country” SC vs “Upstate” SC (Charlotte/Columbia).
Native SC Charlestonians have a real Love/Hate for “Northerners” and for whatever reason specifically target “Ohioans”. They hate them with a passion, and I’m talking just the past 2-3 years (COVID and the impact on traffic, it’s real I promise. I was a Washington DC traffic doubter, but it’s actually a thing down here to a much lesser extent. 7 miles in 18 mins vs 90 mins in 60 miles.
But in CHS they love their property values going up (“No More Apartments in MY great neighborhood!!!! Keep the Northerners and the apartments (transitioners like me) out!!!”)
In Charleston, SC…I currently see as much OSU/PSU/Mich/Minn/Wisc/Mich St, even Iowa gear, not kidding…daily at the gym as I do Clemson/USC-E and that is not an exaggeration. Asked my gym dude where he was from and he said Iowa. I said Go Hawkeyes! He said “wow, how did you know that!” I was like “does everyone not know that!” and he didn’t know how to respond. We have TV in these parts. Kirk Feremtz is a DUDE just like Frank Beamer.
Blacksburg is not a cow field anymore. Ames, Iowa is. Most of the B1G is in a major way, raking in the $$$$$$.
Still plenty of VT and UVA and UNC but not as much as B1G as a whole. And def no FSU or Miami or any other SEC or ACC school.
Yeah, Detroit and Flint and State College and Columbus suck. Blacksburg does not, despite popular belief. People are migrating en masse to the Carolinas (I did/have/no reason to change).
This board thinks Blacksburg is in the middle of nowhere but look at a freaking map. It’s on I-81 and accessible from I-95 and I-77, the busiest interstates in the richest state in the country.
Charlotte and Charleston are amazing. Work from home, live at the best beaches, come here, take over opponents stadiums for cheap (Panthers, Hornets). It’s so cheap down here compared to do DC and the Northeast.
Blacksburg is a 2.5 hour drive from Charlotte and a 5+ from Charleston SC and 4 hours from Washington DC and less to Richmond and 5+ to 757/Virginia Beach…to witness the greatest entrance in all of sports (Lane). “Cow town”, whatever…that was 20+ years ago when we were also “The Most Wired City in the World” before the internet that we know. And a Smart Road before anyone (I’m in IT) knew what the Internet was.
Perspective.
Only “problem” with B1G folks in the South is you won’t get cheap tickets (Duke, Wake) or takeover the stadium…and you will likely LOSE…yet still have the time of your life (Blacksburg).
B1G for the win. It just works better. Let UVA join Vandy and Ole Miss in the equally great SEC. They will bring the academics way up and keep football/basketball great in the richest area in America.
UVA/UNC to SEC and VT/NCSt to B1G makes the most sense.
UNC with UVA…and VT with NC St for the same exact reasons. They will still play OOC. Ohioans and Michiganders moving to Raleigh/RTP is gigantic right now.
Demographics will decide it all, make it happen. Nobody else in the ACC (including Miami and Clemson) are nearly as valuable as the states of VA and NC in demographics and culture and academics and fit. It’s not the same as it was last time (VT-UVA stick together for the ACC), but it was best when we did the previous time (UVA in ACC, VT in Big East). Same now, it’s time we blow the minds and wallets of the two biggest dogs.
2 states, 2 different conferences. Big money for the win. You’re welcome ESPN and FOX…write this down.
VT BABY!!!
** Edited by Hardcore_Hokie at 6/13/2024, 5:24:10 AM
Posted: 06/12/2024 at 10:23 PM ET
Thread Replies (63)
SEC vs B1G (surprising take from someone who has moved all over)
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-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jun 12, 2024 at 10:23 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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06/12/24 10:23 PM ET
I prefer VT to SEC since I am only two hours to UF**
-- OrlandoHokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:23 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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06/13/24 09:23 PM ET
4 hours from Washington DC is difficult to achieve
-- Windows NT
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:40 AM ET
Windows NT
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06/13/24 10:40 AM ET
Pretty easy to get to Fairfax in under 4 hour from a Blacksburg Gas Station
-- MVIII
Jun 13, 2024 at 02:18 PM ET
MVIII
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06/13/24 02:18 PM ET
Sure, if you time it for Wed at 1am, exceed speed limit & don't stop to pee**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 13, 2024 at 02:50 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/13/24 02:50 PM ET
You could choose 50% of available times and stop and pee and make it in 4
-- MVIII
Jun 13, 2024 at 04:03 PM ET
MVIII
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06/13/24 04:03 PM ET
No I don't. That 50% is not game travel days/times - which is the point
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 14, 2024 at 12:34 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/14/24 12:34 PM ET
As someone who lives in Roanoke
-- mrcaniac
Jun 14, 2024 at 04:12 PM ET
mrcaniac
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06/14/24 04:12 PM ET
That’s how fast I used to get to VT in the 90’s
-- HokieAl
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:44 AM ET
HokieAl
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06/13/24 10:44 AM ET
Hate to break it to you but the 90s were 25-35 years ago...**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 13, 2024 at 02:51 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/13/24 02:51 PM ET
disheartening for me to realize my date of birth is closer to WW1 than
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 04:16 PM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 04:16 PM ET
That ship sailed long ago for me...**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 14, 2024 at 12:48 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/14/24 12:48 PM ET
I guess it beats the alternative.**
-- reestuart
Jun 14, 2024 at 12:52 PM ET
reestuart
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06/14/24 12:52 PM ET
Yeah, the Big Ten has fans everywhere. They probably have twice the living
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:20 AM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 10:20 AM ET
I live in Colorado and always joke that I live in Big Ten country
-- North Main Hokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 02:21 PM ET
North Main Hokie
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06/13/24 02:21 PM ET
Yep. It sometimes feels like there are about 150M or so people from the
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 03:03 PM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 03:03 PM ET
Ohio State is the worst
-- North Main Hokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 03:48 PM ET
North Main Hokie
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06/13/24 03:48 PM ET
I remember talking to a rep once that went to maybe Miami? It was an OH
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 04:15 PM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 04:15 PM ET
Sands is working on growing VT into a B1X size university
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:30 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/13/24 10:30 AM ET
yeah baby. SHOW the mantra, the FLAGSHIP university of the Commonwealth
-- DMV Gobbler
Jun 14, 2024 at 08:17 AM ET
DMV Gobbler
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06/14/24 08:17 AM ET
Just making VT more generic**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:35 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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06/13/24 10:35 AM ET
We talk a lot about VT (obviously), but can we talk UVA for a second?
-- HokieAl
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:54 AM ET
HokieAl
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06/13/24 09:54 AM ET
With UVa/Big Ten. Want in one hand. Poop in the other. I'm willing to
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 11:59 AM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 11:59 AM ET
UVA = Maryland with better Academics and Athletics
-- Sunsetunderground
Jun 13, 2024 at 01:21 PM ET
Sunsetunderground
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06/13/24 01:21 PM ET
I don't see it. UVa would be one of the two smallest in the conference
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 01:48 PM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 01:48 PM ET
Future expansion would require pods and I would think UNC would decide
-- manassashoo
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:45 AM ET
manassashoo
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06/13/24 10:45 AM ET
How do you fix UVa attendance?
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 13, 2024 at 11:43 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/13/24 11:43 AM ET
Hand out free tickets at the local homeless shelters, and provide free...
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 13, 2024 at 01:16 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/13/24 01:16 PM ET
Start winning and the fans will come.
-- manassashoo
Jun 13, 2024 at 12:41 PM ET
manassashoo
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06/13/24 12:41 PM ET
I think the pros and cons........
-- 2hhoop3
Jun 13, 2024 at 10:28 AM ET
2hhoop3
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06/13/24 10:28 AM ET
But the B1G is such a better fit for schools like UVa and UNC
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 13, 2024 at 11:30 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/13/24 11:30 AM ET
VT should take whatever P2 opportunity comes along, but still think the B10
-- HokieNoVA
Jun 13, 2024 at 08:44 AM ET
HokieNoVA
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06/13/24 08:44 AM ET
Tell me how the "cultural fit" with
-- Pylons
Jun 13, 2024 at 11:22 AM ET
Pylons
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06/13/24 11:22 AM ET
You just described 90% of the ACC. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/13/24 09:11 AM ET
It's all about regional interest
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:39 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/13/24 09:39 AM ET
I agree with all of that. From my perspective, VT's athleti program is a no
-- Big12 guy
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:51 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/13/24 09:51 AM ET
Maryland will try to nix and VT to the Big
-- VTCALS72
Jun 13, 2024 at 07:45 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/13/24 07:45 AM ET
Maryland has no clout
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:10 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/13/24 09:10 AM ET
Ohio State is the only voice that matters (like Texas in the B12).**
-- Big12 guy
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:18 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/13/24 09:18 AM ET
Hey Dayooper - Are you a true "Yooper?" I have a lakehouse on Manistique.**
-- Oscar the American
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:40 AM ET
Oscar the American
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06/13/24 09:40 AM ET
I lived 5 years in Marquette
-- dayooper
Jun 13, 2024 at 11:26 AM ET
dayooper
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06/13/24 11:26 AM ET
Absolutely!
-- Oscar the American
Jun 13, 2024 at 12:46 PM ET
Oscar the American
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06/13/24 12:46 PM ET
I've not made it to the UP yet, but we vacation in Traverse City on the
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 12:42 PM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 12:42 PM ET
If you fish, Spring trout season and the fall salmon run in the...
-- Oscar the American
Jun 13, 2024 at 01:51 PM ET
Oscar the American
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06/13/24 01:51 PM ET
We have talked about hitting the area up in spring or fall soon. We'll do
-- reestuart
Jun 13, 2024 at 03:07 PM ET
reestuart
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06/13/24 03:07 PM ET
Maybe Michigan, as they are still the top brands. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 13, 2024 at 09:38 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/13/24 09:38 AM ET
Agreed but VT is WAY bigger in the DMV than the Twerps.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 07:54 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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06/13/24 07:54 AM ET
NOVA/DMV/Richmond/Tidewater, and the rest of the state
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 13, 2024 at 08:58 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/13/24 08:58 AM ET
Yep, and there are a fair number of VT alum living in MD too.**
-- HokieNoVA
Jun 13, 2024 at 08:24 AM ET
HokieNoVA
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06/13/24 08:24 AM ET
I like and agree with your conclusion.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 12, 2024 at 11:12 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/12/24 11:12 PM ET
Would guess Sands has been doing that.
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 13, 2024 at 06:25 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/13/24 06:25 AM ET
Fans don’t want better conference members
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jun 12, 2024 at 11:59 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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06/12/24 11:59 PM ET
No true Southerner would rather see VT in BIG than SEC…
-- ombandit
Jun 13, 2024 at 05:58 AM ET
ombandit
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06/13/24 05:58 AM ET
I didn’t say I *want* VT in the B1G over the SEC.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 08:08 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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06/13/24 08:08 AM ET
Who in VA or NC wants to go play in Minnesota in November?**
-- VTCALS72
Jun 13, 2024 at 07:47 AM ET
VTCALS72
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06/13/24 07:47 AM ET
LOL, UVA in the ACC and VT in the Big East was great for a while.
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jun 12, 2024 at 11:40 PM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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06/12/24 11:40 PM ET
Frankly anyone getting a hotel room in Christiansburg will discover...
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 13, 2024 at 06:28 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/13/24 06:28 AM ET
I stayed in a hotel in Christiansburg last month…
-- Hardcore_Hokie
Jun 13, 2024 at 08:02 AM ET
Hardcore_Hokie
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06/13/24 08:02 AM ET
Loved the rivalry during our Big East days. Good times, good times.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 12, 2024 at 11:59 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/12/24 11:59 PM ET