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They didn't swindle.......

their way in. They put their money where there mouth was and the people that had decision power voted them in. Your issues with SMU are your own to work through.
Posted: 07/09/2026 at 11:23 AM ET
(In response to this post by Baltimore_Hokie)

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Should the ACC pursue Texas Tech?
SMU Pony 07/07/26 09:14 PM ET
I think The bots from Texas TEch is throwing this out
1947Sunbowl 07/15/26 12:46 PM ET
As a football "mercenary," I say yes. They are going to be a top 10
TDVick 07/14/26 08:12 AM ET
Just have VT schedule them. I see a potential rivalry. **
Big12 guy 07/14/26 12:14 PM ET
No way.**
reestuart 07/13/26 08:15 AM ET
I'd rather have TCU **
VaTechHokiesACC 07/12/26 07:56 AM ET
Acc would have TCU first.**
MrFantastic! 07/13/26 06:11 AM ET
I'd take TTU. But the ACC brass won't at this point.
RandomAsianGuy 07/10/26 02:01 AM ET
Brass means the membership presidents
1947Sunbowl 07/12/26 12:00 PM ET
Ratings over Cable Hookups now, close regional rivalries bring ratings. TCU
Stech 07/09/26 09:24 PM ET
Simple answer ...No. See all the posts below for why.**
seekoHoG 07/08/26 08:17 PM ET
Texas Tech Burnt alot of bridges in college athletics
1947Sunbowl 07/08/26 05:29 PM ET
This! They should have punted him as soon as the gambling news hit...
EDGEMAN 07/09/26 06:11 AM ET
They did, he was cut from the team. Then the kid
Big12 guy 07/09/26 08:49 AM ET
As a "kid"? He's 22...**
SMU Pony 07/11/26 09:50 AM ET
Still a did in my book. **
Big12 guy 07/11/26 07:17 PM ET
Something being legal doesn't mean it is right...**
RTFC 07/09/26 04:38 PM ET
Yeah but Tech blew the door wide open with the crack allowed by the judge.
HouClone 07/09/26 09:38 AM ET
Be prepared for the baggage
HouClone 07/08/26 02:03 PM ET
Texas Tech has nowhere near that kind of clout
Tailgate Guru 07/08/26 02:52 PM ET
Yeah but the billionaire believes he and Tech have all the clout - 99%
HouClone 07/08/26 03:44 PM ET
"invest" vs "buy". Unfortunately, in today's college athletics, these are
wwhokie1 07/08/26 06:51 PM ET
Texas Tech has nowhere to go but the Pac 12 and Mountain West **
Tailgate Guru 07/08/26 06:45 PM ET
Nope. They wouldn’t even be top 5 target from B12
HokieAl 07/08/26 11:39 AM ET
School we would "target", vs school that would "target" us.
wwhokie1 07/08/26 06:55 PM ET
If SMU needs a travel partner, I'd much rather have Oklahoma State.
Maroon Baboon 07/08/26 10:44 AM ET
Agreed. We already have TX.
VT ChemE 1986 07/08/26 11:30 AM ET
The ACC will never have Texas
Tailgate Guru 07/08/26 02:58 PM ET
But, but, but....all those Dallas/Ft. Worth carriage fees!!!!!!!!!
Baltimore_Hokie 07/08/26 03:52 PM ET
About those DFW carriage fees...
SMU Pony 07/08/26 07:36 PM ET
Double the capacity of Gerald Ford Stadium and fill it consistently
Tailgate Guru 07/14/26 01:00 PM ET
I love the SMU addition**
VictoryTurkey 07/10/26 07:40 PM ET
I may be in the minority here, but I like having SMU in the conference.
VT ChemE 1986 07/09/26 11:21 AM ET
Agreed. It was the best step they could take. **
VT_NOVA 07/09/26 02:22 PM ET
My issue with the ACC adding those 3 schools isn't because it provides the
VTHokie2000 07/09/26 12:35 PM ET
Great post. One point of contention though-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 09:41 AM ET
You are right that winning doesn't necessarily bring eyeballs. The reason
VTHokie2000 07/10/26 09:56 AM ET
I understand. I think you need both.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 10:43 AM ET
Except Boise State didn't become "Boise State" overnight. They put in the
VTHokie2000 07/10/26 01:31 PM ET
Yeah, I knew all that. My points remain.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 01:55 PM ET
Just saw this
MrFantastic! 07/11/26 05:43 AM ET
SMU can try to accomplish whatever they want - I can’t figure out why-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/11/26 11:04 AM ET
Smu not the issue **
MrFantastic! 07/11/26 02:53 PM ET
You can't figure.....
2hhoop3 07/11/26 11:27 AM ET
Haha, I've got some bad news for you
SMU Pony 07/10/26 09:36 PM ET
Here’s some bad news for you:
Baltimore_Hokie 07/11/26 11:07 AM ET
BUT, BUT, BUT...
SMU Pony 07/11/26 02:18 PM ET
Why do you assume that SMU can't get back to where it was in the '80s?
VTHokie2000 07/10/26 05:46 PM ET
Because SMU had just a few good years then
Tailgate Guru 07/15/26 07:53 PM ET
FWIW SMU did win a Natty in 1935 and they did have "success" in the '20s,
VTHokie2000 07/16/26 12:54 PM ET
SMU has a rich history. So does Army and Carnegie Mellon
Tailgate Guru 07/17/26 04:56 PM ET
I would not assume that BC has more wealthy boosters than SMU because it
VTHokie2000 07/20/26 01:28 PM ET
Again, not a Boise State apologist. Just using the example.**
Baltimore_Hokie 07/11/26 10:53 AM ET
You did make the claim that the networks still consider Boise State to be
VTHokie2000 07/11/26 08:45 PM ET
I should have been more clear; apologies. BSU was just the best G5 example-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/13/26 12:40 PM ET
In defense of the SMU move, you have to
Big12 guy 07/13/26 03:47 PM ET
There's not enough money on God's creation worth associating with SMU.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/15/26 10:23 AM ET
I think that SMU was/is not the ACC's problem. I think
Big12 guy 07/15/26 10:37 AM ET
Well, we agree they're not THE problem. But they're A problem, and a-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/15/26 10:52 AM ET
Boise States problem is the
Big12 guy 07/13/26 11:07 AM ET
There are no available schools that fit your requirement.
VT ChemE 1986 07/09/26 01:17 PM ET
Here's a novel idea for you to consider - the ACC didn't HAVE to add anyone**
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 09:44 AM ET
ACC = Skynet**
VT ChemE 1986 07/10/26 09:45 AM ET
Anyone that plays baseball can tell you - panic usually forces errors.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 09:52 AM ET
From what standpoint?.....
2hhoop3 07/10/26 10:38 AM ET
I'm channeling Will and his directive for me to be nice when I say this:
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 10:45 AM ET
I have read your posts......
2hhoop3 07/10/26 10:52 AM ET
Rubber and glue, rubber and glue**
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 10:53 AM ET
As you said before, ACC leadership is unable to do the right thing
VT ChemE 1986 07/10/26 10:16 AM ET
Sure, yeah, NOW. There's 3 programs that wouldn't need pruning if they-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/10/26 10:50 AM ET
Which has been my problem with the ACC for awhile now. Instead of being
VTHokie2000 07/09/26 01:46 PM ET
To me, the only practical rivalry worth adding was WVU-Pitt. And of course
Maroon Baboon 07/09/26 06:10 PM ET
I don't disagree that the ACC really messed up by not adding WVU. However,
VTHokie2000 07/10/26 10:07 AM ET
Since when is the ACC a "sentient being?" Is the ACC like Skynet?
Baltimore_Hokie 07/09/26 12:19 PM ET
Ha ha ha…..Nicely done!**
VT ChemE 1986 07/09/26 01:14 PM ET
I don't care about any of that. Nobody cares about or watches SMU.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/09/26 10:01 AM ET
I find your emotionally unstable ramblings genuinely amusing
SMU Pony 07/10/26 09:49 PM ET
They didn't swindle.......
2hhoop3 07/09/26 11:23 AM ET
Great post. You refuted every one of my points. You're clearly correct.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/09/26 12:07 PM ET
This isn't going to turn .....
2hhoop3 07/09/26 01:37 PM ET
I have nothing but respect for SMU and the way they got into the ACC
Maroon Baboon 07/09/26 09:02 AM ET
UCF does have something to show for it. They have something that even VT
VTHokie2000 07/09/26 12:39 PM ET
It would be almost as terrible and nonsensical as having SMU in the ACC.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/08/26 09:48 AM ET
Adding Texas Tech makes about as much sense as adding Cal, Stanford, and
VTHokie2000 07/08/26 08:49 AM ET
I think the jury is out on the optimum conference distribution strategy
VT ChemE 1986 07/08/26 10:31 AM ET
If ACC is looking to just get money, fit be damned a la Cal, Stanford, SMU
HouClone 07/09/26 03:33 AM ET
Before Cincy went to the Big XII, I thought Cincy and Memphis State would
Maroon Baboon 07/09/26 09:17 AM ET
Memphis and L'ville have a nice rivalry going too which the ACC could use
VTHokie2000 07/09/26 12:40 PM ET
I've always liked Memphis. They have good fans, good in the major sports,
HouClone 07/11/26 10:19 AM ET
The ACC should have probably added Cincy and Memphis when it had the chance
VTHokie2000 07/11/26 08:52 PM ET
An on campus stadium would help. **
Big12 guy 07/11/26 07:21 PM ET
FWIW the Liberty Bowl isn't that far away from campus. According to Google
VTHokie2000 07/11/26 08:49 PM ET
A drive, not a walk, then you have to
Big12 guy 07/11/26 10:08 PM ET
Memphis isn't the only school where fans have to pay for parking, so I
VTHokie2000 07/13/26 09:02 PM ET
My comment wasn't referring to the geographical aspect of conference
VTHokie2000 07/08/26 10:46 AM ET
For the ACC, maximizing value may not be necessary
VT ChemE 1986 07/08/26 11:27 AM ET
I get what you are saying and I don't disagree that some value is better
VTHokie2000 07/08/26 11:52 AM ET
The ACC was dead man walking since Maryland left.
Maroon Baboon 07/08/26 12:36 PM ET
You are probably right about when the ACC started to become a dead
VTHokie2000 07/08/26 05:08 PM ET
Of course not.
Tailgate Guru 07/08/26 08:21 AM ET
Why is TT mad at the Big12?
VT ChemE 1986 07/07/26 10:53 PM ET
Yeah, I don't get all the hate for TT.
Maroon Baboon 07/08/26 10:28 AM ET
Partly because they are prohibited from throwing things on the field
HouClone 07/08/26 04:45 AM ET
Sound like a bunch of Notre Dame crybabies to me**
VT ChemE 1986 07/08/26 10:32 AM ET