Haha, it appears the PAC bubble is reemerging, and it is your view. I
suppose that is the reason that the ACC didn't expand with any of the schools in the B12 - when you guys could have had any of them.
What is that view getting the ACC today? Maybe you should take a step back, and look at the bigger picture. The ACC ship came in, and you didn't get on board. Now it's sailing away, and you continue with your outdated view.
The viewership numbers are out there. VT sells out their stadium, but does VT sell out BC, Wake, Duke, or even NC States stadium?
Kansas goes on the road, and they play in sold out stadiums, when they have just stunk up the place with football - but they play in stadiums that are sold out, week, after week. Except for 3 stadiums in the ACC (VT, FSU, and Clemson), where does Duke play in front of a sell out crowd? ND doesn't count.
Thread Replies (73)
I believe that ultimately UF and USCe will support FSU and Clemson to SEC…
-- CrystalCoveHokie
May 03, 2024 at 12:45 PM ET
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05/03/24 12:45 PM ET
To date, the SEC and B1G don’t compete in the same markets, except across
-- Marooned
May 04, 2024 at 01:25 PM ET
Marooned
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05/04/24 01:25 PM ET
Why would they need them?**
-- HokiesACC2004
May 04, 2024 at 02:16 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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05/04/24 02:16 AM ET
FSU fans I talk with are certain Noles are destined for the B1G. Apparently
-- seekoHoG
May 03, 2024 at 09:48 PM ET
seekoHoG
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05/03/24 09:48 PM ET
FSU and Clemson to B1G makes more sense than those two to the SEC**
-- UpstateSCHokie
May 03, 2024 at 06:46 PM ET
UpstateSCHokie
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05/03/24 06:46 PM ET
Clemson is certainly the #1 brand in the upstate (where I live) but if you
-- UpstateSCHokie
May 04, 2024 at 09:34 AM ET
UpstateSCHokie
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05/04/24 09:34 AM ET
You make a good point **
-- HokiesACC2004
May 04, 2024 at 11:34 PM ET
HokiesACC2004
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05/04/24 11:34 PM ET
People outside of Texas talked about TCU when they won a game
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 10:19 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 10:19 AM ET
I will admit that you have compelling arguments, and we could both be right**
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 10:26 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 10:26 AM ET
They might "support" it, but does the SEC really need FSU and Clemson?
-- VPI_1998
May 03, 2024 at 04:12 PM ET
VPI_1998
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05/03/24 04:12 PM ET
Those two aren't a pimple on UT's butt. **
-- HokiesACC2004
May 04, 2024 at 02:17 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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05/04/24 02:17 AM ET
True…and only one school was against them, not the case with FSU & Clemson.**
-- Stech
May 03, 2024 at 10:32 PM ET
Stech
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05/03/24 10:32 PM ET
Where does Clemson go? I don't see it either, with either of the P2. **
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 04:25 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 04:25 PM ET
I think B1G for both FSU and Clemson - it makes sense. Now - as many
-- VPI_1998
May 03, 2024 at 04:32 PM ET
VPI_1998
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05/03/24 04:32 PM ET
Clemson isn't the #1 brand in their market. A better football team for sure
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 05:09 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 05:09 PM ET
ODU and Liberty put some pretty good squads on the field. i wouldn't
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 09:04 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 09:04 PM ET
I might be wrong but this is a post that reeks of not knowing the lay
-- VTCALS72
May 03, 2024 at 06:37 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/03/24 06:37 PM ET
Lived in charlotte for about 10 years. maybe it's different now, but
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 08:31 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 08:31 PM ET
Just picking but what year was that, 19??**
-- VTCALS72
May 03, 2024 at 08:35 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/03/24 08:35 PM ET
Quite frankly, it's been neither. Going back to 1980 is pretty far in the
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 08:29 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 08:29 PM ET
Alex Hawkins Was His Running Back Mate
-- VPI 1924
May 03, 2024 at 09:33 PM ET
VPI 1924
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05/03/24 09:33 PM ET
Yep, made All American and eventually became a medical doctor.
-- RJHokie
May 03, 2024 at 09:43 PM ET
RJHokie
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05/03/24 09:43 PM ET
You misunderstand. Filling up Williams Brice especially in winless
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 09:14 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 09:14 PM ET
How much of that is the effect of joining the SEC though?
-- Marooned
May 04, 2024 at 12:57 PM ET
Marooned
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05/04/24 12:57 PM ET
That is a legit question, as I experienced them as an SEC school. **
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 04:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 04:22 PM ET
I can't get into the minds of the general public, and i don't have the
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 09:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 09:39 PM ET
Just like aTm supported Big TX to join, right? LOL!**
-- EDGEMAN
May 03, 2024 at 03:35 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/03/24 03:35 PM ET
If they weren't going to land in the B1G IMHO maybe, but just like UVaTech
-- Stech
May 03, 2024 at 12:54 PM ET
Stech
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05/03/24 12:54 PM ET
Nobody needs GT to “get Atlanta”
-- hokieZ71
May 03, 2024 at 06:00 PM ET
hokieZ71
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05/03/24 06:00 PM ET
The B1G and their media partners want to grow a nationwide TV footprint.
-- 33laszlo99
May 03, 2024 at 02:54 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/03/24 02:54 PM ET
Yes! Loved their 1/4 chicken dark. Then they got pricy
-- Marooned
May 04, 2024 at 01:02 PM ET
Marooned
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05/04/24 01:02 PM ET
You are absolutely right about the dominance of UGA. But GT need not
-- 33laszlo99
May 03, 2024 at 10:55 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/03/24 10:55 PM ET
So a question, what would those advertisers say about VT being the lynchpin
-- VTCALS72
May 04, 2024 at 08:35 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/04/24 08:35 AM ET
The BC move was not compelled by advertisers, media companies, or the
-- 33laszlo99
May 04, 2024 at 12:21 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/04/24 12:21 PM ET
Sure, Swoffard is the cause of everything, NOT
-- VTCALS72
May 04, 2024 at 12:34 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/04/24 12:34 PM ET
The ACC is better off than 2/3rds of the former G5? The ACC exists today
-- Big12 guy
May 06, 2024 at 03:35 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/06/24 03:35 PM ET
2036, you claim to know what the lay of the land will be?
-- VTCALS72
May 06, 2024 at 04:29 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/06/24 04:29 PM ET
Haha, it appears the PAC bubble is reemerging, and it is your view. I
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-- Big12 guy
May 06, 2024 at 04:42 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/06/24 04:42 PM ET
Why would an east coast team take teams from the center/west?
-- VTCALS72
May 06, 2024 at 06:01 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/06/24 06:01 PM ET
No, KU is not a draw in football - didn't mean to insinuate that, more
-- Big12 guy
May 06, 2024 at 08:17 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/06/24 08:17 PM ET
Never put G5 status on anyone
-- VTCALS72
May 06, 2024 at 09:00 PM ET
VTCALS72
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05/06/24 09:00 PM ET
Splitting hairs - triple A (your term) is an implication that they are G5.
-- Big12 guy
May 06, 2024 at 09:12 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/06/24 09:12 PM ET
Hey, my whole point all along is a P2 then a next 3 then the G5
-- VTCALS72
May 07, 2024 at 07:58 AM ET
VTCALS72
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05/07/24 07:58 AM ET
I agree with that pertaining to Kansas. Like eUSC, they have spent the
-- Big12 guy
May 07, 2024 at 08:21 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/07/24 08:21 AM ET
Everything you said is true, however look at the Fox/B1G model, it’s NFL
-- Stech
May 03, 2024 at 09:58 PM ET
Stech
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05/03/24 09:58 PM ET
Maybe with the BIG, but Oklahoma is not a large media market. Will
-- Big12 guy
May 03, 2024 at 03:06 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/03/24 03:06 PM ET
The SEC uses a College Football Rivalry Model, they want great rivalries.
-- Stech
May 03, 2024 at 10:08 PM ET
Stech
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05/03/24 10:08 PM ET
I agree. It's rivalries and brand-on-brand for The SEC. This will be even
-- 33laszlo99
May 04, 2024 at 12:27 PM ET
33laszlo99
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05/04/24 12:27 PM ET
I don't disagree with all of this, but as an outsider, looking at the
-- Big12 guy
May 04, 2024 at 08:56 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/04/24 08:56 AM ET
The annual Red River Rivalry game
-- Marooned
May 03, 2024 at 05:29 PM ET
Marooned
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05/03/24 05:29 PM ET
Oklahoma has Fully Depended on Texas Recruits Since the Days Before
-- WarHog38
May 04, 2024 at 01:52 AM ET
WarHog38
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05/04/24 01:52 AM ET
Yeah - the OK addition I think is a little bit of a gamble for the SEC.
-- VPI_1998
May 03, 2024 at 04:16 PM ET
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05/03/24 04:16 PM ET