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"Fighting Windmills?" I get you're trying to make a Don Quixote reference-

and that's very smart and high-culture of you, but what does that even mean, in context here? Who is advocating fighting (the more accurate reference would have used "tilting") windmills? If you're an ACC member with a football agenda and dissatisfied with the administrative support you're getting from the conference, there are several very clear antagonists here, which have been named multiple times. Maybe you're confused regarding what the idiom "tilting at windmills" means. ** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 8/1/2024, 10:18:20 AM
Posted: 08/01/2024 at 10:17 AM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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Stanford and Cal now, are officially members of the ACC, June 30 and Aug 1
Stech 07/31/24 12:20 AM ET
They will do nothing. SEC and Big X are not interested at the moment
PFHokie 08/01/24 11:09 AM ET
The B12 is in no position to "take" FSU or Clemson. The money is not
Big12 guy 08/01/24 11:55 AM ET
You’re predicting more ACC lawsuits r coming, even though FSU & Clemson’s
Stech 08/01/24 12:22 PM ET
Maybe. Phillips has demonstrated he will go to the mat to retain the
Big12 guy 08/01/24 12:36 PM ET
Maybe the B12 🏈 ratings go down w/o Texas and Oklahoma?
Stech 08/01/24 01:09 PM ET
Worst case for the B12. FSU/CU stay in the ACC, ESPN ups
Big12 guy 08/01/24 01:39 PM ET
All good points IMHO.**
Stech 08/01/24 01:57 PM ET
Most end of the world cultists just keep moving out the date**
PadrosWindup 07/31/24 08:42 PM ET
True, and so now we have August 15th.**
Stech 08/01/24 08:32 AM ET
Stanford and Cal.....
2hhoop3 07/31/24 12:56 PM ET
Okay, tomorrow, I thought it was today. **
Stech 07/31/24 01:00 PM ET
SMU, TX, and OU all officially joined their new conferences on 7/1
mrcaniac 07/31/24 01:09 PM ET
Tomorrow.....
2hhoop3 07/31/24 01:04 PM ET
Hahaha, 😆 I have been crazy busy, and I jump the gun.**
Stech 07/31/24 04:08 PM ET
How “locked in” are these new members relative to the existing ones?
I85Hokie 07/31/24 12:34 PM ET
They have signed the same GOR that all the other ACC schools have signed**
mrcaniac 07/31/24 12:46 PM ET
Even in their desperation
Vippie1 08/01/24 09:23 AM ET
There is no evidence that Calford can leave the ACC any easier than FSU can**
tarheelblue 08/02/24 01:46 PM ET
I'm still not sure about Cal and Stanford
PFHokie 07/31/24 10:58 AM ET
Teams that don't play on both coasts every year are clearly inferior.
Truthahn 08/02/24 05:07 PM ET
Isn't Stanford's endowment 30x more than SMUs?
Sunsetunderground 07/31/24 12:24 PM ET
The problem is ROI
PFHokie 08/01/24 11:14 AM ET
18X.... Stanford ($36.5B) SMU ($2.04B)**
SMU Pony 07/31/24 08:51 PM ET
Let's see petroleum industry versus Silicon Valley?
PFHokie 07/31/24 01:19 PM ET
Like them fancy pants flyin' machines!**
WestyHokie 08/01/24 06:49 AM ET
Don't forget them steam driven clothing looms!**
PFHokie 08/01/24 08:51 AM ET
Ok **
HokiesACC2004 08/01/24 06:31 AM ET
What?
hokieZ71 07/31/24 07:34 PM ET
no petro without high-tech unless you want to live in the dark age**
Windows NT 07/31/24 03:12 PM ET
endowments are not promises but investments,
1947Sunbowl 07/31/24 02:20 PM ET
Universities have become hedge funds that hand out degrees**
mrcaniac 07/31/24 05:13 PM ET
Stanford's endowment is like 30x's everyone's. **
Big12 guy 07/31/24 12:57 PM ET
I still think the travel is insane.
Maroon Baboon 07/31/24 10:02 AM ET
Funny how EW travel is insane, while NS travel us sane.
PadrosWindup 08/01/24 08:11 AM ET
Both suck, but the time changes suck more. Whenever, they come to Lane, we
HokieEngineer 08/01/24 09:43 AM ET
Of course it is, which is why I don't think either the old PAC-12 teams
VPI_1998 07/31/24 12:35 PM ET
Don't read any of the fan sites. They are click bait.
PFHokie 07/31/24 09:34 AM ET
Depends on what calendar they are using. Mayan calendar is no longer an
manassashoo 07/31/24 09:31 AM ET
But they were "right" because you watched, clicked and talked about it
Vienna_Hokie 07/31/24 08:52 AM ET
The podcasters/Youtubers are making the classic doomsday cult blunder
HokieNoVA 07/31/24 08:00 AM ET
It will move. Book it!
EDGEMAN 07/31/24 06:49 AM ET
That FSU guy was so cocky and sure that FSU was headed to the SEC....
UpstateSCHokie 07/31/24 05:39 AM ET
The P2 have to say that. They do not want to be seen as
seekoHoG 07/31/24 11:56 AM ET
They are 2 of the 3 or 4 football brands left on the table, so you
Big12 guy 07/31/24 12:01 PM ET
I've said from the beginning that FSU and Clem don't bring a thing to SEC
HokieToph 07/31/24 11:04 AM ET
ESPN should have a show called Conference Swap ala Wife Swap
OrlandoHokie 07/31/24 02:37 PM ET
I keep going back and forth on this business.
mancunian 07/31/24 09:45 AM ET
What happened to the so called February 2025 look in that was talked about?**
Stech 07/31/24 12:53 PM ET
So many FSU fans have said how the ACC was going to become so
VTCALS72 07/31/24 06:56 AM ET
All these predictions are ridiculous guessing and clickbait. But somebody
wwhokie1 07/31/24 09:43 AM ET
FSU is leaving the ACC, one way or another, sooner or later.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/31/24 11:03 AM ET
Use To Be 3 or 4 on Here that Sounded Like You
WarHog38 07/31/24 06:34 PM ET
I think you're mostly right.
Baltimore_Hokie 08/01/24 09:45 AM ET
Yes, FSU will leave. But only when it becomes cost effective. That may be
wwhokie1 07/31/24 02:00 PM ET
Yep. Like I said.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/31/24 03:40 PM ET
My preference is either they leave soon and pay a lot of money so
wwhokie1 07/31/24 05:03 PM ET
I don't think the ACC has a choice. Buy another 10 years, or fold now. **
Big12 guy 07/31/24 03:47 PM ET
I'm not advocating for the ACC. I understand why they're doing-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/31/24 03:58 PM ET
Many of us in the B12 put down the corkscrew, and grabbed a can
Big12 guy 07/31/24 04:16 PM ET
Dude, I like you and I follow
mancunian 07/31/24 07:14 PM ET
No doubt, but all in the 12 were passed over, so I'll wear the can
Big12 guy 07/31/24 08:15 PM ET
The big difference between the ACC and the Big 12-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/31/24 04:34 PM ET
I think the ACC is going to play this out until FSU capitulates. Phillips
Big12 guy 07/31/24 03:33 PM ET
Not much on the ACCN either. The ACC needs to turn things around now.
pine52x 07/31/24 12:48 PM ET
I know my posts come off like I'm an ACC hater-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/31/24 03:37 PM ET
Your take is completely unreasonable
VTCALS72 07/31/24 06:56 PM ET
I understand you think that Jim Phillips walks on water, that the ACC-
Baltimore_Hokie 08/01/24 09:30 AM ET
There are miles of distance between "walks on water" and your take
VTCALS72 08/01/24 10:54 AM ET
The difference between you and me on this is very simple-
Baltimore_Hokie 08/01/24 11:42 AM ET
I'm Surely No FSU Fan
WarHog38 07/31/24 08:54 PM ET
Fighting Windmills is not a response**
VTCALS72 08/01/24 06:56 AM ET
"Fighting Windmills?" I get you're trying to make a Don Quixote reference-
Baltimore_Hokie 08/01/24 10:17 AM ET
It means your take is like Don Quixote
VTCALS72 08/01/24 10:57 AM ET
OK, now I'm positive you don't understand the metaphor. Carry on, though.**
Baltimore_Hokie 08/01/24 11:35 AM ET
It's going to be hard to win OOC in the conference with
obguthr 07/31/24 03:37 PM ET
Playing the tough OOC games is now a necessity, for both our conferences. **
Big12 guy 07/31/24 04:31 PM ET
They way over value themselves **
HokiesACC2004 07/31/24 07:04 AM ET