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INSIDE99

Clemson and FSU are leaving

Speaking of fantasy...no disrespect intended, but watching fans of ACC schools hold on to a belief that the P2 is not going to add the larger market ACC schools is like watching European countries hold on to a belief that Hitler is done expanding past Poland despite continuing to build the world's largest arsenal of soldiers, tanks, planes and weapons. The P2 doesn't wish to compete against other conferences, they bought it all and the market is still open. Clemson and FSU are leaving. They are not going through this process without knowing where they land. If the court doesn't process it soon enough they will pay the fee agreed to in settlement and split. There are absolutely claw back clauses and non-compete clauses and non-disclosure clauses in almost every settlement. FSU is not interested in paying an absorbent amount of money so other schools can use it to pay to get out at a lesser fee. I would have thought that just to be common knowledge.
Posted: 03/22/2024 at 03:57 PM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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Teel article this morning link
bburgnative • 03/21/24 08:09 AM ET
Repeat reporting
INSIDE99 • 03/21/24 08:24 PM ET
You make it sound like the GOR and the ESPN contract are the same thing.
Maroon Baboon • 03/21/24 10:55 PM ET
If ESPN pulls the funding and the ACC implodes, it will be cheaper to buy..
EDGEMAN • 03/22/24 06:46 AM ET
The GoR has always been tied to the ESPN deals
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 01:24 AM ET
Not necessarily....
2hhoop3 • 03/22/24 01:23 PM ET
Only a court can determine whether the GOR is separate from the ESPN deal
VTCALS72 • 03/22/24 12:35 PM ET
Courtrooms in the US
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 01:04 PM ET
What basis is there to say the ACC essentially "destroyed" anything?
VTCALS72 • 03/22/24 01:24 PM ET
The ACC is Tier 2 football making Tier 2 football money
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 03:07 PM ET
Since you just joined this board this month, I guess we should call
saret • 03/22/24 08:43 PM ET
Your contention.....
2hhoop3 • 03/22/24 03:13 PM ET
Clemson and FSU are leaving ◄
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 03:57 PM ET
Any school can leave whenever they want. Pay the required fees,
saret • 03/22/24 09:13 PM ET
The discussion was not about.....
2hhoop3 • 03/22/24 04:17 PM ET
Assumptions go both directions
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 05:45 PM ET
I do not believe......
2hhoop3 • 03/22/24 07:59 PM ET
Thanks for clarifying. Some thoughts...
Maroon Baboon • 03/22/24 08:45 AM ET
Behind the network curtain
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 12:42 PM ET
IMO, that is primarily what the Clemson suit is about; i.e.,
daveinop • 03/22/24 10:12 AM ET
And the ACC suit against both FSU and Clemson was to confirm
VTCALS72 • 03/22/24 12:41 PM ET
Discovery
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 01:16 PM ET
Hope you're right on discovery, Sunshine. It will increase my amusement.**
saret • 03/22/24 09:21 PM ET
What if the only real discovery is that the top 4 made a bad deal then
VTCALS72 • 03/22/24 01:20 PM ET
Not the same type of Discovery **
INSIDE99 • 03/22/24 02:30 PM ET
ESPN has a tough decision here. If they don't renew, the best football
Maroon Baboon • 03/22/24 10:17 AM ET
I can not see a way the HOOs and UNC would consider the SEC.
Atlee Hokie • 03/22/24 10:25 PM ET
I’m sure he hangs out here, wish he’d post here after an article like this.
Stech • 03/21/24 09:58 AM ET
I do not think W&M has any desire to compete in big time athletics though.
VTHokie2000 • 03/21/24 10:05 AM ET
It’s a long shot for sure, I am going to delete that part, it’s the least
Stech • 03/21/24 10:12 AM ET
Given that JMU makes sense as a potential VA replacement school for the ACC
VTHokie2000 • 03/21/24 10:32 AM ET
Academics really pulls in the TV $$$$ and pumps up ticket sales 😂
Pylons • 03/22/24 12:32 PM ET
If it gets to the point where the ACC is discussing JMU then everyone else
HokieNoVA • 03/21/24 11:47 AM ET
Might as well make the SunBelt the ACC. **
HokiesACC2004 • 03/21/24 11:44 PM ET
Syracuse will join the Big 12. BC and Wake are screwed.
Old Line Hokie • 03/21/24 03:56 PM ET
If everyone except BC and Wake has a new home ...
Truthahn • 03/22/24 12:00 PM ET
The Big 12 schools do not want SMU........
2hhoop3 • 03/21/24 04:33 PM ET
I don’t think the Big 12 has ever run from SMU
Millpoint • 03/21/24 04:51 PM ET
You're entitled to ......
2hhoop3 • 03/21/24 05:41 PM ET
As are you**
Millpoint • 03/21/24 06:19 PM ET
SMU brings nothing to the Big 12
Millpoint • 03/21/24 04:06 PM ET
Well, they also bring nothing to the ACC so...**
HokieNoVA • 03/21/24 06:14 PM ET
But the ACC is not a serious athletic conference, and was desperate**
Hokie 04 • 03/21/24 07:38 PM ET
SMU will be competitive if they can recruit at the same level as
Big12 guy • 03/21/24 08:09 PM ET
It wasn't too long ago when my K-State friends were talking
Big12 guy • 03/21/24 04:24 PM ET
It might depend on who else in in the conference. Historically JMU has a
VTHokie2000 • 03/21/24 12:57 PM ET
Facts**
hokieluver • 03/21/24 12:51 PM ET
JMU has much higher academic ratings than Liberty or ODU, the average
Stech • 03/21/24 10:59 AM ET
I agree that JMU's ranking is much better than Liberty or ODU. However, I
VTHokie2000 • 03/21/24 01:06 PM ET
Wherever they rank, pretty sure it's far ahead of Loserville academically.**
EDGEMAN • 03/22/24 10:11 AM ET
Most likely because I believe JMU's most recent ranking is somewhere in the
VTHokie2000 • 03/22/24 12:50 PM ET
UNC scandal is much more embarrassing than anything Louisville did
Hokie 04 • 03/21/24 07:41 PM ET
Probably so, but people are willing to overlook it because of UNC's name.**
VTHokie2000 • 03/22/24 12:46 PM ET
They I don’t believe are, but are headed that way. Louisville got n because
Stech • 03/21/24 01:17 PM ET
here we go again FSU and Clemson 'Pushing he conference'
DMV Gobbler • 03/22/24 08:30 AM ET
I knew JMU started to make great improvements in its ranking when it
VTHokie2000 • 03/21/24 01:32 PM ET
JMU has enjoyed the benefits of high end kids getting denied by VT and UVa
HokieToph • 03/21/24 11:30 AM ET
Agreed, JMU is on par with several ACC schools academically.
hokieluver • 03/21/24 11:27 AM ET