Now you have my attention, as you stated
that the contract numbers are based on future events, and additions to the conference.
So give me some latitude here,
You think that they are vague because their are colluding to undermine the PAC so they can pick up some PAC schools so that they could then get the numbers reported. That would mean that ESPN would be complicit (not a stretch), As the pro rata for ESPN is also reported to be out there, but "reports" say that it's not a slam dunk for FOX.
The Baylor Athletic Director earlier this week stated that pro rata is in the contract for new teams or markets. He didn't differentiate between P5 or G5
Yormark stated just yesterday that he sees the conference expanding to 14. All of that goes up in smoke if the PAC falls apart.
USCLA was announced 1 year ago, as was the addition of the 4 newbies in the conference, so none of those moves had anything to do with the what the BIG did to the PAC.
Common sense - I'll give you that one, because I was very surprised to see what kind of contract they got, but the basketball may have pushed them up because FOX was involved. I also think that FOX and ESPN were bidding on the content, and ESPN has just lost the BIG - and that drove the numbers up.
I have difficulty in seeing a conspiracy from the 12 and ESPN to try and dissolve the PAC, i say that because the few teams they are talking about defecting are not even close to the top brands in that conference. For your theory to be tru, they would be going after the higher rated teams - Oregon and Washington, and i don't see any scenario where the B12 picks up football brands like that.
I think it's blind dumb luck being in the right place at the right time for Yormark. The PAC had a deal from ESPN on the table, and they rejected it, and put their conference out for bid. It was then that Yormark cut in line and signed a deal.
Until I see differently, I'll have to disagree with your position, but if you turn out to be right, the drinks are on me.
Thread Replies (37)
San Diego State to Remain in the Mountain West**
-- OU_Sooner
Jun 30, 2023 at 05:20 PM ET
OU_Sooner
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06/30/23 05:20 PM ET
Guess the rest of the Pac 12 is staying together for now **
-- HokiesACC2004
Jul 01, 2023 at 03:47 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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07/01/23 03:47 AM ET
So Big12 has 13, Big10 has 16, PAC12 has 10? MWC should change to PAC16
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jul 03, 2023 at 05:37 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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07/03/23 05:37 PM ET
The Big 10 earned their B1X name many years ago...lol**
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 03, 2023 at 11:06 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/03/23 11:06 PM ET
Never put a number in your name, unless it is the MAG7.
-- Truthahn
Jul 01, 2023 at 10:52 AM ET
Truthahn
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07/01/23 10:52 AM ET
Even the Mag should have been 8 to get to a majority, I’d stick w/ no #’s
-- Stech
Jul 02, 2023 at 10:15 AM ET
Stech
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07/02/23 10:15 AM ET
I've been calling them PAC-10 since the news of the B1X gutting them**
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 01, 2023 at 11:29 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/01/23 11:29 AM ET
I wonder what value they would add to the Big XII?
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 01, 2023 at 05:05 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/01/23 05:05 AM ET
I think it is smarter for the B12 to wait out the PAC.
-- Truthahn
Jul 01, 2023 at 10:59 AM ET
Truthahn
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07/01/23 10:59 AM ET
The contract, whatever it is, was formally ratified as of today. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 12:34 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 12:34 PM ET
Hope you are just as critical of the Pac
-- HouClone
Jul 01, 2023 at 08:38 PM ET
HouClone
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07/01/23 08:38 PM ET
I will call the deal for.......
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 01, 2023 at 08:48 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/01/23 08:48 PM ET
Will do. But please note we haven't seen the fine details of the Big 10
-- HouClone
Jul 01, 2023 at 10:58 PM ET
HouClone
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07/01/23 10:58 PM ET
You've made that statement.....
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 01, 2023 at 11:14 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/01/23 11:14 PM ET
Yeah, I looked then and saw the same details of the Big 12 contract
-- HouClone
Jul 02, 2023 at 12:36 AM ET
HouClone
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07/02/23 12:36 AM ET
Look a little closer at the article ......
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 02, 2023 at 12:39 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/02/23 12:39 PM ET
You won't have to see the fine print. The payments to
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 09:13 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 09:13 PM ET
The exit fees don't count, but it is what it is. Get this,
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 10:44 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 10:44 PM ET
Just like pretty much every thing else.....
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 01, 2023 at 11:10 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/01/23 11:10 PM ET
Clearly you think the reported numbers are false. Just asking,
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 01:25 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 01:25 PM ET
Now you have my attention, as you stated
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-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 03:00 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 03:00 PM ET
Big 12 doesn't want San Diego State. Too far away, small fan base, lukewarm
-- HouClone
Jul 01, 2023 at 05:19 AM ET
HouClone
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07/01/23 05:19 AM ET
B12 expressed interest before USCLA departed. Until
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 07:24 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 07:24 AM ET
Nicest city in USA in my opinion.**
-- Lakeridgehokie
Jul 01, 2023 at 01:52 PM ET
Lakeridgehokie
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07/01/23 01:52 PM ET
I don't think geography matters that much
-- obguthr
Jul 01, 2023 at 06:41 AM ET
obguthr
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07/01/23 06:41 AM ET
More on San Diego State staying in the MWC & possible future Conf. 🔗
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 09:44 PM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 09:44 PM ET
Seems like SDSU got the rug pulled out from under them by
-- WBGV
Jun 30, 2023 at 07:00 PM ET
WBGV
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06/30/23 07:00 PM ET
A deal isn't coming until the conference stabilizes. **
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 01, 2023 at 07:20 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/01/23 07:20 AM ET
Interesting, I thought the ACC would want that market in the merger…
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 06:26 PM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 06:26 PM ET