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VTHokie2000
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VTHokie2000

We (as fans) talk about 2036 as being the end date because currently it is

the end POP or we think it is the current end POP because of the assumptions we make on how contracts should behave. However, what if FSU (and Clemson) see the situation similar to the scenario I suggested in my previous post where the current end POP may not be the true end POP because the ACC has the power to unilaterally decide that date on a moment's notice? If the Commish was able to unilaterally amend the GOR in 2021, then technically there isn't anything to stop the Commish from doing it again in the future. Particularly if the NC court(s) support the decision. If that sentence is truly the ACC's get out jail free card, then the ACC could keep extending the GOR unilaterally even if the ACC enters into a new media contract with whomever because the schools won't be able to afford to pay for the exit fee and buying back their GOR. I may be wrong, but I doubt there would be too many Hokie fans (maybe even ACC fans) who would be happy if the ACC announced it unilaterally extended the current GOR to June 30, 2050 or even June 30, 2099 knowing full well it doesn't have a media contract in place after June 30, 2036. You may be thinking to yourself that the ACC wouldn't dare do that because that action would be violating something. I do agree with that thought process, but at the same time people and entities have been known to make strange decisions in the name of self-preservation. Most people think the ACC is a dead man walking and it will either not exist or be a shell of its former self once the GOR is allowed to expire. Why wouldn't the ACC try to delay it for as long as possible?
Posted: 08/10/2024 at 01:36 PM ET
(In response to this post by VTCALS72)

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SIR - In the grand scheme of things, no big deal here but worth posting**
Maroon Unit • 08/08/24 08:55 PM ET
"Throw in the Towel" is not true. Larger FSU versus ACC suit still active.
mjfhokie • 08/09/24 09:04 AM ET
I think there was a lot less Moody's office could make public
daveinop • 08/09/24 09:31 AM ET
By access you mean going to Charlotte to read it, is that what you meant?**
Stech • 08/09/24 12:01 PM ET
correct; and
daveinop • 08/09/24 12:22 PM ET
At present it seems.........
2hhoop3 • 08/09/24 03:02 PM ET
I'm guessing FSU has a number they will pay right now to get out.
Atlee Hokie • 08/09/24 05:16 PM ET
I would guess......
2hhoop3 • 08/09/24 06:16 PM ET
I would guess
daveinop • 08/09/24 07:55 PM ET
I would love to know what the ESPN bean counters are thinking, I’m still
Stech • 08/09/24 08:41 PM ET
I would love to get my hands on all the quantitative analysis those bean
VTHokie2000 • 08/09/24 08:58 PM ET
Only if they have somewhere to go.
LonghornHokie • 08/09/24 05:42 PM ET
They will have a place to go.........
2hhoop3 • 08/09/24 06:30 PM ET
The principal key to a magic trick, is DIVERSION, seems in play here to me.**
Stech • 08/09/24 12:28 PM ET
That's why I said throw "A" towel and "not a big deal"**
Maroon Unit • 08/09/24 09:21 AM ET
Just Shows the Power of ESPN Within Florida
WarHog38 • 08/09/24 01:48 AM ET
WRT whether ESPN exercises the option or not, it may be forced to play the
VTHokie2000 • 08/09/24 12:23 PM ET
As you pointed out, Commissioner Phillips’ action with respect to extending
WBGV • 08/10/24 10:43 AM ET
I think they were waiting
daveinop • 08/11/24 08:06 AM ET
Even if ESPN doesn't exercise the option and the media contract dies in
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 01:43 PM ET
IMHO the contract has had a number of these "look ins" or amendments.
VTCALS72 • 08/09/24 07:22 PM ET
In what has been released so far, there isn’t any evidence of
WBGV • 08/10/24 10:59 AM ET
Look-ins were widely/openly mentioned by the schools (link)
daveinop • 08/11/24 08:14 AM ET
The former President of FSU, John Thrasher, is now advocating for FSU
WBGV • 08/12/24 10:37 AM ET
Just a guess but the payments to the ACC could be reviewed periodically
VTCALS72 • 08/10/24 03:32 PM ET
If that is true, then why didn't the Commish unilaterally execute the
VTHokie2000 • 08/09/24 08:35 PM ET
Was the 2016 thing pretty much based on adding the ACCN?
VTCALS72 • 08/09/24 09:21 PM ET
I don't think it was the only change because I think that is when the Irish
VTHokie2000 • 08/09/24 10:04 PM ET
I think your last sentence is spot on. This whole GOR deal
VTCALS72 • 08/10/24 08:52 AM ET
We (as fans) talk about 2036 as being the end date because currently it is ◄
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 01:36 PM ET
The binding agreement between the conference and what the members
VTCALS72 • 08/10/24 03:26 PM ET
I doubt many, if any,......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 01:45 PM ET
The ACC higher-ups forgot the old Irish saying, "Never underestimate the
ancient alien 2018 • 08/10/24 10:17 PM ET
Even if people assume that about 2036, can we assume that the ACC won't
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 01:52 PM ET
I doubt that happens.......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 02:11 PM ET
If the courts back the ACC's play, then I am not sure the number of
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 02:23 PM ET
I understand.......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 02:33 PM ET
If the members have the power to modify/overturn the GOR, then why didn't
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 02:42 PM ET
Maybe they......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 02:51 PM ET
A reason it may be in everyone's best interest to have the dates match is
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 03:13 PM ET
That is what the........
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 03:32 PM ET
Yes, it is possible my statement could mean that the relationship needs to
VTHokie2000 • 08/10/24 09:09 PM ET
That Does Add a New Angle
WarHog38 • 08/09/24 01:04 PM ET
Yes, it does raise a new angle for sure. Also, it raises another potential
VTHokie2000 • 08/09/24 01:20 PM ET
How is the FL AG not getting hammered by Miami fans?
Truthahn • 08/09/24 11:56 AM ET
Miami fans mostly want out of the acc. They are delusional **
SpeakToDamien • 08/09/24 06:58 PM ET
State AG's are there to protect the interests of the state government
mrcaniac • 08/09/24 03:44 PM ET
C’est la vie my friend**
VT ChemE 1986 • 08/09/24 01:19 PM ET
she'd likely be more concerned with UF, UCF and the Florida Land Council
daveinop • 08/09/24 12:30 PM ET
Or that the suit achieved it's purpose, the release of the documents
Vienna_Hokie • 08/09/24 08:18 AM ET
Maybe ESPN is Just Playing Around While Sitting On the Pot
WarHog38 • 08/09/24 01:29 PM ET
ESPN may have an offer on the table, and Phillips is trying to get more.
Big12 guy • 08/09/24 02:47 PM ET
That is Possible
WarHog38 • 08/09/24 03:23 PM ET
If it was a great deal, it would be announced already. Maybe he has the
Big12 guy • 08/09/24 05:27 PM ET
Does Phillips care more.....
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 11:46 AM ET
If he can get $300M - $600M from them, it is definitely and option. What
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 12:56 PM ET
I doubt Phillips.....
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 01:32 PM ET
There will be no settlement in the range of $300M. If you guys think
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 02:35 PM ET
If there will be no settlement.......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 02:44 PM ET
I used your numbers, did I not?
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 02:51 PM ET
You used part of the numbers...
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 02:57 PM ET
Insert the sound of my eyes rolling. No matter which numbers are used,
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 03:10 PM ET
That wasn't the......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 03:24 PM ET
The future contract negotiations of the B10 and SEC will include FSU and
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 04:57 PM ET
I hate to tell you.....
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 05:09 PM ET
Hate to tell you, but that is your opinion without even a podcaster
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 06:37 PM ET
Just because you do not want.......
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 07:24 PM ET
It's plausible, no doubt. we have discussed that before. Hashing out
Big12 guy • 08/10/24 08:52 PM ET
It is called........
2hhoop3 • 08/10/24 10:09 PM ET
Not true. The ACC will get a contract. The question is at what amount. Will
Big12 guy • 08/11/24 07:27 AM ET
Nobody said.....
2hhoop3 • 08/11/24 01:19 PM ET
I thought it was a settlement, and dropping the suit was a formality. **
Big12 guy • 08/09/24 09:12 AM ET
Cracks me up how Rival Conference posters almost always end w/ ACC demise🤔
Stech • 08/09/24 08:39 AM ET
Where did espn spend tons of money.
Atlee Hokie • 08/09/24 04:49 PM ET
Just watch.......
2hhoop3 • 08/09/24 01:42 PM ET
Another network and/or streaming service should be champing at the bit
Maroon Unit • 08/09/24 08:16 AM ET
Time Warner is floating around with a hook in the water. **
Big12 guy • 08/09/24 09:13 AM ET