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The new pay for play Division hasn't happened yet, but just about all think

it is going to happen. As I said below in an original post, that's the BIG BANG!!!
Posted: 12/06/2023 at 10:59 AM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Just to start a discussion, this is an interesting take on what it
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 12:49 PM ET
To summarize...so you don't have to support this clown
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 08:11 AM ET
He's a little too bullish on the big12 future
ren_hoek • 12/05/23 10:00 PM ET
What a stretch, Texas is leaving the B12, that’s ludicrous!! Say it enough
Stech • 12/06/23 08:04 AM ET
BigXII and ACC are about to become the new G2. Especially the BigXII.
Maroon Baboon • 12/05/23 11:27 PM ET
I don't think that is the case, at least not in my neck of the woods. I
Big12 guy • 12/06/23 08:51 AM ET
The difference is, 12 years of a GOR, Big12 and PAC GORs were done
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 09:00 AM ET
The problem is that schools in the ACC might not have a dozen years.
WBGV • 12/06/23 12:08 PM ET
They have longer than the current system will last
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 07:16 PM ET
Then it's only a matter of time? It's my contention that if the networks
Big12 guy • 12/06/23 09:09 AM ET
Maybe it's a matter of time, given what else is going on, more likely moot
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 09:38 AM ET
Spot on, very good post, what's going on outside of realignment dwarfs what
Stech • 12/06/23 10:56 AM ET
I think it's already blown up, it's just the pieces haven't landed yet. **
Big12 guy • 12/06/23 09:42 AM ET
The new pay for play Division hasn't happened yet, but just about all think ◄
Stech • 12/06/23 10:59 AM ET
The NCAA proposal is a smoke screen.
33laszlo99 • 12/06/23 10:30 PM ET
Yep and likely will bail a lot of people out of bad long term decisions
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 07:21 PM ET
Goodbye Clemson and fsu. Maybe UnC too. **
GreenvilleVT • 12/05/23 09:58 PM ET
He makes a mistake by thinking the CFPC chose the BigXII over the ACC.
Maroon Baboon • 12/05/23 04:48 PM ET
The cable hook up guy said it? He’s getting clicks to sell ads w/o sources!**
Stech • 12/05/23 04:04 PM ET
The Big 12 a bunch of Texas wanta bes
Mercury • 12/05/23 02:53 PM ET
My apologies for posting this link. **
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 03:07 PM ET
I'm not sure Texas got in because the Big XII is perceived to be stronger
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 01:17 PM ET
Dead if in BIG XII
archhokie17 • 12/06/23 08:34 AM ET
And that is what every school not in the P2 says. **
Big12 guy • 12/06/23 09:44 AM ET
simpler than that, Big 12 is ACC with a shorter window and less brands
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 08:40 AM ET
I agree that the ACC currently has a better brand than the Big XII.
VTHokie2000 • 12/06/23 06:24 PM ET
The PAC implosion changed things. The addition of the 4 corners put
Big12 guy • 12/06/23 10:53 PM ET
Even though the Big XII may have added better schools, those additions
VTHokie2000 • 12/07/23 12:24 AM ET
I agree with most of that, but it's tough to compare the two conferences
Big12 guy • 12/07/23 08:42 AM ET
Texas was put in to justify Alabama. Also, no way a 12-1 BigXII champ
Maroon Baboon • 12/05/23 11:36 PM ET
Also, they beat Bama.**
NokieHokie • 12/05/23 01:22 PM ET
That's a reason Alabama shouldn't have been included then and not
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 01:51 PM ET
But they wanted Bama, so they threw a bone to Texas.**
NokieHokie • 12/05/23 02:50 PM ET
Yep. If UGA won, it's UGA, UM, UW, and FSU. That's IMO. **
reestuart • 12/05/23 03:00 PM ET
I don't disagree that is how it played out. Although it is a little odd
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 02:55 PM ET
None of the rankings matter until the final ones.**
NokieHokie • 12/05/23 03:04 PM ET
I was referring to the final rankings. The Committee could have done this
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 03:13 PM ET
the rankings are meaningless, they rank them to get the matchups they want**
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 08:18 AM ET
That's all the more reason to rank Alabama at #3 and Texas at #4 given the
VTHokie2000 • 12/06/23 06:29 PM ET
Whatever the driver, they wanted AL/MI in the Rose Bowl
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 07:19 PM ET
I'm not sure allowing Texas to play in the Sugar Bowl is any worse than
VTHokie2000 • 12/06/23 08:04 PM ET
I haven't met anyone that thinks Texas should be there over FSU. It's a
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 02:01 PM ET
FWIW Drake Toll seemed to give that impression on the podcast you linked.
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 02:28 PM ET
In my link, there is no doubt that he is biased for the B12. Still, I was
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 02:34 PM ET
I agree with you that Texas should have gotten in over Alabama. Why bother
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 02:42 PM ET
Texas got in because they wanted Alabama. I don't buy the
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:22 PM ET
Thanks for link......
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:03 PM ET
Agree 100% with the committee wanting Alabama but ...
Old Line Hokie • 12/05/23 01:56 PM ET
ya, I know, but it was the part about FSU and the GOR that got my attention
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:10 PM ET
I have not heard .......
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:13 PM ET
Haha, I understand why you wouldn't listen to the podcast - so the cliffs
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:20 PM ET
That's just funny. Not sure even Lionel Hutz would take that case**
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 08:04 AM ET
Based on your OP........
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:26 PM ET
I had not read that those arguments before, but so be it, as you
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:34 PM ET
I said.......
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:44 PM ET
Ok**
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:51 PM ET
Listened to the rest......
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 09:20 PM ET
This kid was there before Yormark, long before, He is definitely pro
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 10:17 PM ET
I attack .......
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 10:22 PM ET
He said the ACC lied about the GOR because BC receives the same share as
VTHokie2000 • 12/05/23 01:18 PM ET
So in other words.....
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:22 PM ET
No, ...., it's different IMHO**
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:23 PM ET
it's not different, same argument, different basis, just as flawed
Vienna_Hokie • 12/06/23 08:57 AM ET
Also,....
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:47 PM ET
I've been down this path with you before. Won't do it again. I have
Big12 guy • 12/05/23 01:50 PM ET
The question....
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:56 PM ET
How so?......
2hhoop3 • 12/05/23 01:27 PM ET