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I read your earlier posts, and i disagree with your premise, although

you have some valid points. If you believe there was a conspiracy to dismantle the PAC you might be correct. If you believe all of this we are going through is because they want a break away league, you might be correct. If you believe that there is a conspiracy to dismantle the ACC you might be correct. I think the PAC was a comedy of errors, not an end goal. I think the P2 want the money, not a separate league. I think the ACC is holding her own, and has a real good chance of staying together. The public opinion is coming from the politicians. I assure you, there are powerful people in California, and other PAC States that are voicing their disapproval. The difference between them and the ACC, is that they are doing it after the fact, and the ACC has the advantage of voicing their opinions before the fact. The Big 10 is felling it, and the Networks are feeling the pressure. A P3 is not a given, unless the money is there. I also think that the SEC and the Big 10 will sit on their hands until their current contracts are run out. Could FSU and Clemson leave? Sure, it's likely, but not set in concrete. Not this round, anyway. No one is going to the ACC from the B12 unless the ACC can distribute about $20M more than they now distribute. The same goes for any school in the ACC going to the B12. There is a possibility that happens, and a P3 is formed, but I think it is unlikely. A break away league negates all of the money and recruiting advantage of the P2. A break away league would put all the schools in that league on the same footing, as their TV and championship deals will have to be distributed evenly. It's not going to happen IMHO. The Big 10 will always make more money, the SEC will always have the better football, and then there will probably be the best of the rest conference. Whether it's the ACC or the B12 has yet to be determined. The question is whether or not a third conference can generate that $20M more per school, or not. If the P2 do in fact take more than FSU/CU, then I don't see a pathway for any conference to close the money gap, and I think that is what the P2 would like to see. Dominate the money, recruiting, power, and to hell with the rest of us.
Posted: 07/20/2024 at 07:33 PM ET
(In response to this post by WarHog38)

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Per Bookies.com…..Team odds for joining SEC….
CrystalCoveHokie 07/20/24 01:02 PM ET
NC State might actually be #2 on that list.
Maroon Baboon 07/20/24 11:25 PM ET
The above article is nothing more than speculative BS with no supporting
FLKEYSHOKIE 07/20/24 09:19 PM ET
This article is two years old but I doubt much has changed.
Maroon Unit 07/20/24 05:43 PM ET
I Guess NC State Is In The Field
WarHog38 07/20/24 03:43 PM ET
NCSt has zero value to P2 unless UNC is handcuffed to them….
CrystalCoveHokie 07/20/24 06:49 PM ET
I strongly disagree with that
VTCALS72 07/21/24 06:14 PM ET
Why would either of the P2 take NCSt without UNC?……
CrystalCoveHokie 07/21/24 06:49 PM ET
got the power? yes they do. got the viewers in NC? not as much
VTCALS72 07/21/24 07:56 PM ET
I can't take seriously something that puts UNC as the number one choice for
wwhokie1 07/20/24 01:51 PM ET
Micheal Jordan U. **
HokiesACC2004 07/21/24 01:39 AM ET
U misspelled nat'l brand, hoops, baseball, academic rep and all other sport**
drb 07/20/24 05:36 PM ET
UNC is the clear #1**
neworleanshoo 07/20/24 05:31 PM ET
WW, The SEC wants to expand their footprint. Look at a map and consider
33laszlo99 07/20/24 05:29 PM ET
i can take it seriously
Vippie1 07/20/24 04:17 PM ET
UNC may be the top brand in the ACC. 2 major TV markets (RDU, CLT) and MBB.
Maroon Effect 07/20/24 02:52 PM ET
That's like saying Rutgers is the top brand of the BIG because they're in
wwhokie1 07/20/24 04:03 PM ET
I hate UNC with a passion but they've got the brand behind it **
HokiesACC2004 07/21/24 01:39 AM ET
Well, the big 10 did take Rutgers. And Duke is a bad example.
Maroon Effect 07/20/24 05:28 PM ET
Rutgers is glad they got the invite when they did, they wouldn't get it now
wwhokie1 07/20/24 08:59 PM ET
UNC has too much competition in the Carolina market. You are
Big12 guy 07/20/24 03:43 PM ET
I Think All the Lawsuits are Solid Proof the P2 Will Expand
WarHog38 07/20/24 04:16 PM ET
The Disney decision makers are not in Florida. The Corporation is
seekoHoG 07/20/24 07:48 PM ET
Walt Disney Use to Live in Florida
WarHog38 07/20/24 08:41 PM ET
I don't think the ACC folds the way many think. We have all assumed that
Big12 guy 07/20/24 05:06 PM ET
FSU and Clemson leaving will destroy the conference.
HokieDelNorte 07/20/24 07:09 PM ET
ESPN Gains Money By Getting Rid of the ACC as P4
WarHog38 07/20/24 07:02 PM ET
Are you talking about.......
2hhoop3 07/20/24 08:46 PM ET
I Have to Simplify
WarHog38 07/20/24 09:11 PM ET
ESPN's share of the network profit.......
2hhoop3 07/20/24 09:28 PM ET
I Am Sure All You Stated & More Will Be Figured By ESPN Accountants
WarHog38 07/20/24 09:38 PM ET
Ignore it as you wish.........
2hhoop3 07/20/24 10:52 PM ET
Don't Know What I Have Ignored?
WarHog38 07/21/24 01:21 AM ET
"ESPN Gains Money........
2hhoop3 07/21/24 03:29 AM ET
For FY 22 & FY 23 $10 million + was distributed to all 15 ACC schools
RJHokie 07/20/24 09:55 PM ET
I read your earlier posts, and i disagree with your premise, although
Big12 guy 07/20/24 07:33 PM ET
Disney Tells Politicians What to Do
WarHog38 07/20/24 08:08 PM ET
Yes, it is that simple. It's all about the media money. **
Big12 guy 07/20/24 08:15 PM ET
You mean B10 doesn't want to be seen as breaking up a 2nd conference,
Atlee Hokie 07/20/24 07:02 PM ET
I do not believe ........
2hhoop3 07/20/24 05:34 PM ET
The PAC 12 was killed by gross mismanagement.
RJHokie 07/20/24 05:33 PM ET
Agree, ACC mgt is much better.**
VTCALS72 07/21/24 08:00 PM ET
Totally agree, massive, gross mismanagement is the main cause for the
FLKEYSHOKIE 07/20/24 09:47 PM ET
Agreed. Clemson & FSU have no invites,
SpeakToDamien 07/20/24 05:19 PM ET
At a minimum IMHO they will expand the NCAA tournament to 90+, pay S16 💵
Stech 07/20/24 04:12 PM ET
I think you could be "on target" with your prediction post, Stench !**
FLKEYSHOKIE 07/20/24 09:51 PM ET
Well it’s Stech, not Stench, but I’m hoping that’s a spell check problem 🤣
Stech 07/20/24 09:55 PM ET
I am sorry for the bad error !**
FLKEYSHOKIE 07/20/24 09:56 PM ET
No problem, I’ve been called worse, and it was intentional. 🤣**
Stech 07/20/24 11:49 PM ET
Thanks, Stech !**
FLKEYSHOKIE 07/20/24 11:52 PM ET
If the P2 expand more than i think, VT should go to the SEC. They just
Big12 guy 07/20/24 04:25 PM ET
For the P2 to have.......
2hhoop3 07/20/24 04:39 PM ET
I think that proposed settlement opened a lot of eyes. **
Big12 guy 07/20/24 04:48 PM ET