from a poster who whined he was leaving a while back only to still be hanging around with all your ND BS. A collective organization and sharing of the rewards is not socialism, it is recognition that all members contribute to the overall value of the product. The SEC, B1G and ND benefit from having a wide range of opponents and the public interest generated. Stealing is an apt description of what ND has done for the past 30 or more years. Did you feel you needed to shut your program down at any point in the last 30 years? Of course not, you just lied to yourself about the money and benefit of the doubt you thought your program earned.