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INSIDE99

Listen to the money talk, this is a business decision for all the networks

Reading the Clemson lawsuit does answer questions as to how the GOR can be interpreted. The timing of the filing was purposeful. Again, ESPN and FOX have the say in ACC realignment...not the ACC or court litigation. When Jim Phillips signed off on the new playoff payout scheme, the die was cast. There is absolutely no reason the ACC, as a power five conference, should accept an extreme lesser percentage of the playoff revenue from ESPN than other conferences. That alone is a deal breaker. The ACC leadership failed to uphold its fiduciary duty to the member schools. FSU and Clemson are leaving and already have a landing spot. This will happen long before 2036 and will not cost $500 million. No provisions to show you on that statement. Just common sense. Also of note, in both the amended two-year agreement and new six-year extension, the CFP provides ESPN with the right to sublicense a select number of games. The horse trading is ongoing. Realignment is on the table. Having FSU, Clemson, ND, UNC in the P2 is worth more to ESPN/FOX/NBC than if they stay in the ACC. If you want to see those charts they are available everywhere. This is a business decision for the networks. Money drives it all. Listen to the money talk.
Posted: 03/20/2024 at 12:52 AM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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Reports are that Clemson has filed suit against the ACC in SC**
Tailgate Guru • 03/19/24 11:47 AM ET
Clemson no Coincidence = CFP
INSIDE99 • 03/19/24 03:06 PM ET
You are going to have to.....
2hhoop3 • 03/19/24 03:13 PM ET
CFP agreement will reveal much
INSIDE99 • 03/19/24 03:41 PM ET
Again.....
2hhoop3 • 03/19/24 04:42 PM ET
Listen to the money talk, this is a business decision for all the networks ◄
INSIDE99 • 03/20/24 12:52 AM ET
Why type another book?......
2hhoop3 • 03/20/24 09:41 AM ET
Yes everyone is speculating **
INSIDE99 • 03/20/24 02:19 PM ET
It is not speculating.....
2hhoop3 • 03/20/24 02:28 PM ET
Everyone IS speculating
INSIDE99 • 03/21/24 12:41 AM ET
You clearly need.......
2hhoop3 • 03/21/24 10:10 AM ET
From Ross Dellenger:
WBGV • 03/19/24 02:05 PM ET
UNC
Vippie1 • 03/19/24 03:12 PM ET
Clemson’s value for B1G or SEC
Millpoint • 03/19/24 01:44 PM ET
What about credit for making the BCS title game? VT, Miami, Tennessee, USC
Maroon Baboon • 03/19/24 03:05 PM ET
I don't think that applies but honestly I'm not sure**
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:08 PM ET
I just got back from “Flugaurville.” Interesting comment re. CFP
33laszlo99 • 03/19/24 01:42 PM ET
The group of 7 are trying to force uneven distributions on the ACC
hokieninsurance • 03/19/24 01:39 PM ET
It’s all but over - waiting for fat lady to warm up. **
3TechFanz • 03/19/24 01:32 PM ET
Fat lady hasn't even arrived to the theater
mrcaniac • 03/19/24 02:05 PM ET
I can see the courts siding w athletes a la portal and nil rulings
3TechFanz • 03/19/24 02:12 PM ET
Oppressed athletes?
Pylons • 03/19/24 05:38 PM ET
Do you even know how long court cases like this take?
mrcaniac • 03/19/24 03:31 PM ET
Normally yes. They ruled on nil & removing transfer position just recently
3TechFanz • 03/19/24 04:13 PM ET
What ACC school will be next in line to sue? UNC?
Old Line Hokie • 03/19/24 01:15 PM ET
Legally, UNC can't act unilaterally
LeadingEdge • 03/19/24 03:01 PM ET
Yes, a move by UNC would require board approval. And yes, the board
33laszlo99 • 03/19/24 03:09 PM ET
I think the NC schools might have to sit back and wait
HokieAl • 03/19/24 01:26 PM ET
NC/NCSU have a suit in their state
mrcaniac • 03/19/24 01:53 PM ET
How do you expect them to get to federal court?….
CrystalCoveHokie • 03/19/24 03:36 PM ET
Not yet, but it will come**
mrcaniac • 03/19/24 05:29 PM ET
Ok……I’m not seeing it unless the state actions are dismissed **
CrystalCoveHokie • 03/19/24 06:15 PM ET
What if the ACC wins in court? How many ACC can actually pay the full GOR?
VTCALS72 • 03/19/24 01:37 PM ET
These suits will be settled ahead of the plague of discovery.**
33laszlo99 • 03/19/24 02:41 PM ET
Why wouldn't schools like BC, Cuse and Wake demand the ACC
VTCALS72 • 03/19/24 06:44 PM ET
Well, this is interesting... Who is next? UNC? The ACC is about to
goldendomer • 03/19/24 01:15 PM ET
Does ND stick around with non football sports after the gutting?**
HokieAl • 03/19/24 01:28 PM ET
No.... **
goldendomer • 03/19/24 01:31 PM ET
Where to? Big East?**
Old Line Hokie • 03/19/24 01:36 PM ET
A return to the Big East seems perfect for them
Millpoint • 03/19/24 02:20 PM ET
No clue, the issue is with our NBC contract I do not think they
goldendomer • 03/19/24 01:43 PM ET
ND would have to beef up the other 7 games they control.
HOO86 • 03/19/24 02:40 PM ET
2 independent games is not independence, if that happens, it’s a joke.
Stech • 03/19/24 05:35 PM ET
I can't see the Big Ten agreeing to that
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:19 PM ET
NBC will push it
TerryD • 03/19/24 03:24 PM ET
That's what I think.
HOO86 • 03/19/24 05:39 PM ET
Big Ten wants ND more than anything else
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:30 PM ET
Better than the SEC getting ND...
TerryD • 03/19/24 09:40 PM ET
Wake, Duke, Syracuse, BC...
Old Line Hokie • 03/19/24 01:52 PM ET
That would be for the best
TerryD • 03/19/24 02:24 PM ET
I am sure that NBC will not be happy paying us 50+ million for games
goldendomer • 03/19/24 01:58 PM ET
Big Ten scheduling deal
TerryD • 03/19/24 02:26 PM ET
Something, or the Big 12 for 3 games. **
goldendomer • 03/19/24 02:30 PM ET
How about the Big 12? I'm sure they would take the same deal...
Old Line Hokie • 03/19/24 02:00 PM ET
Worth a try!**
goldendomer • 03/19/24 02:11 PM ET
Not sure. Big 12 is finally done with Texas's arrogance.
HouClone • 03/19/24 02:05 PM ET
I hope the Big 12 does not offer ND partial membership
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:21 PM ET
My school would schedule them in a heartbeat. **
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 03:41 PM ET
They refuse to ever return to Morgantown
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:44 PM ET
It would be a hell of an atmosphere if they ever did. **
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 03:47 PM ET
According to them
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:54 PM ET
ND basketball would be welcome. I think they would take ND without
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 03:09 PM ET
Hopefully they don't add either one**
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:24 PM ET
I concur, at least for now. **
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 03:34 PM ET
Here it is (link)
HokieAl • 03/19/24 12:47 PM ET
Note Clemson hasn't filed to leave; FSU wants its filing to leave backdated
daveinop • 03/19/24 04:40 PM ET
GOR section is very interesting and specific
HokieAl • 03/19/24 12:53 PM ET
The GOR expressly states it survives a school's departure
LeadingEdge • 03/19/24 03:03 PM ET
It included Clemson Games against non-ACC too.
HOO86 • 03/19/24 01:33 PM ET
I agree with part of their claim; that the GOR includes
daveinop • 03/19/24 01:18 PM ET
I said by February of next year, but makes you think it’s happening sooner.**
Stech • 03/19/24 12:18 PM ET
key is if mag 7 want to do anything NOW is the time
DMV Gobbler • 03/19/24 03:13 PM ET
Well, they aren't suing to go to the B12. It will be interesting
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 12:16 PM ET
Exactly they want a P2, and I doubt they are doing this with ESPN’s support
Stech • 03/19/24 12:35 PM ET
Interesting. FSU is a stretch for B1G with no AAU
HOO86 • 03/19/24 01:28 PM ET
FSU and CLEMSON already have a P2 landing spot
INSIDE99 • 03/19/24 02:52 PM ET
MSU wasn't AAU when invited. FSU med school isn't much. NU was AAU, but...
marcbvtgm • 03/19/24 02:05 PM ET
Ok. I've heard other people & Kevin Warren say it too. We haven't seen it
HOO86 • 03/19/24 02:35 PM ET
There is a lot of overlap in the AAU / potential B1G Venn diagram…
marcbvtgm • 03/20/24 10:51 AM ET
What does the academic side of UVA think about the SEC where hardly anybody
VTCALS72 • 03/19/24 01:39 PM ET
They will have five next year
Millpoint • 03/19/24 03:06 PM ET
I meant UVA joining a conference that has only a minority of AAU schools.
VTCALS72 • 03/19/24 06:41 PM ET
I'm not sure, but AAU hasn't been a requirement for UVA obviously.
HOO86 • 03/19/24 02:18 PM ET
Really?
Vippie1 • 03/19/24 01:37 PM ET
I don't think they would file unless they have an offer in hand. The SEC
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 12:38 PM ET
Agree. FOX has lured both FSU and CU to BIG thinking**
MrFantastic! • 03/19/24 01:04 PM ET
No one is joining a suit filed in a different State
Tailgate Guru • 03/19/24 12:23 PM ET
Didn't Virginia join Tennessee's lawsuit regarding NIL?**
Culpeper Hokie • 03/19/24 12:57 PM ET
That's a different animal
Tailgate Guru • 03/19/24 01:01 PM ET
I don't know that we have options like FSU and Clemson
Hokie 04 • 03/19/24 12:43 PM ET
*commonwealth. 😂**
VT757to276 • 03/19/24 12:36 PM ET
I will rephrase, It will be interesting to see which schools file
Big12 guy • 03/19/24 12:25 PM ET
Not good for the home team...**
Hokie 04 • 03/19/24 12:14 PM ET
A copy of the suit filed in Columbia
Hokie1kenobie • 03/19/24 11:49 AM ET