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The ACC/ESPN contract currently runs through 2036. Depending on what side of the legal fence one resides, ESPN has until February 2025 to extend the deal past the 2026 season. Neither side can walk away or renegotiate unless something changes the contract (composition of the conference). I believe what Josh Pate is continually referring to (as he mentions the lawyers he has contact with) is that once SMU is added and once FSU leaves, the composition of the conference has changed by two teams. And ESPN has already horse traded the end result to share rights with FOX/WBD in their Venu partnership. It's a done deal, just waiting on the official announcement. Following the money trail, the question becomes...does ESPN make more money with FSU/Clemson in the ACC or did they find another way to make more money keeping the ACC together without those two teams while getting Tier 1 partnership rights for FSU/Clemson versus the Michigan, Ohio State and USC teams of the world? Point being, ESPN is making that call. The ACC has no choice if they want the ESPN contract. None of this has anything to do with the current lawsuits, which is why I refer to the court rooms as Kabuki theatre. My intel chatter has more to do with what Notre Dame and UNC are doing now in this chaos. That FSU/Clemson is in the rear view mirror. It's always seemed palpable that the ACC cannot survive if UNC bolts. That is a BOG mess and I have no idea what that end result will be. Maybe ESPN makes an offer they cannot refuse to UNC, but it would have to involve unequal revenue sharing.
Posted: 07/01/2024 at 01:02 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Welp, it's July 1, 2024. Welcome SMU 🐎. And where are all the FSU-tubers
Maroon Baboon 07/01/24 12:45 AM ET
ACC running the announcement in Times Square a nice touch
HOO86 07/01/24 08:18 PM ET
today's my birthday...i guess i got a pony**
MrBayAreaHokie 07/01/24 06:51 PM ET
What about the two California schools?
EDGEMAN 07/01/24 12:02 PM ET
August 1 for those
HOO86 07/01/24 03:21 PM ET
August 2 is the official join date for Cal and Stanford**
tarheelblue 07/01/24 05:03 PM ET
i think that it's tied to their fiscal/Pac date ~ August**
VT757to276 07/01/24 12:07 PM ET
Not sure. Just heard the ACCN was doing something at SMU today.
Maroon Baboon 07/01/24 12:06 PM ET
That double fries guy needs to eat crow - he based his reputation
Big12 guy 07/01/24 11:12 AM ET
Yes. I'm glad you kept the receipts 😆
Maroon Baboon 07/01/24 11:51 AM ET
Welcome Boston College-South!**
HokieNoVA 07/01/24 11:08 AM ET
Great Video posted by the ACC on the Announcement
HOO86 07/01/24 10:32 AM ET
Welcome SMU!!! So, the June 30th deadline for F$U was to avoid a legal
Maroon Unit 07/01/24 10:28 AM ET
Excellent addition. In stark contrast to the many garbage moves the ACC has
TDVick 07/01/24 09:17 PM ET
Dates
INSIDE99 07/01/24 12:30 PM ET
August 2 is the official join date for Cal and Stanford**
tarheelblue 07/01/24 05:03 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't it been reported that
Big12 guy 07/01/24 12:38 PM ET
Never heard that one
INSIDE99 07/01/24 01:02 PM ET
Your last paragraph is where you lose me. The UNC BOG is not a mess - at
HboroughHokie 07/01/24 04:37 PM ET
ESPN Could Surely Buy Off a Few North Carolina BOG Members If Need Be
WarHog38 07/01/24 09:38 PM ET
Probably more of a.......
2hhoop3 07/01/24 09:50 PM ET
I Will Agree to Some Extent
WarHog38 07/01/24 10:41 PM ET
I think it likely has more..,.
2hhoop3 07/01/24 10:47 PM ET
Yes thank you
INSIDE99 07/01/24 04:51 PM ET
I think the BOG would be ok with UNC & State joining SEC - if the exit fees
HboroughHokie 07/01/24 06:49 PM ET
Nothing about the........
2hhoop3 07/01/24 05:05 PM ET
i think Josh and others are overlooking the precedent to date
daveinop 07/01/24 03:24 PM ET
What I mostly disagree with is that the court cases are not relevant
SpeakToDamien 07/01/24 01:23 PM ET
Best to just sit back.......
2hhoop3 07/01/24 01:57 PM ET
Have to admit “if” that’s right on comp clause, could explain FSU’s SMU 👏
Stech 07/01/24 01:23 PM ET
Which post?
INSIDE99 07/01/24 02:49 PM ET
IIRC, it had to do with one of two things
Maroon Baboon 07/01/24 10:50 AM ET
It makes absolutely no sense that ESPN is looking to void the contract
VTCALS72 07/01/24 02:49 PM ET
So, only if the Mag 7 plus 1 voted out. RIIIIGHT!!!**
Maroon Unit 07/01/24 11:43 AM ET
TBF, it was more the second options than the first (Composition Clause)
Maroon Baboon 07/01/24 11:46 AM ET
Heard from Florida State
HOO86 07/01/24 11:10 AM ET
Some of the replies in that thread are priceless 😂**
VTChip 07/01/24 02:12 PM ET
This is a little strange. What's the deal?**
Sunsetunderground 07/01/24 01:11 PM ET
I second that welcome, nice to have ya SMU. Looking forward to your games.**
cricket77 07/01/24 07:59 AM ET
They’re streaming Josh Pate, or whatever’s that guy’s name is…**
ombandit 07/01/24 05:46 AM ET
They've been on this beat far longer than Josh Pate has been recently
Maroon Baboon 07/01/24 06:59 AM ET
They have been wrong every of the 200x
SpeakToDamien 07/01/24 12:53 AM ET
Neither P2 conference will announce any invitations until...
EDGEMAN 07/01/24 06:59 AM ET