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daveinop

that they want to remain as flexible as possible for a prospective buyer

Posted: 02/01/2024 at 04:35 PM ET
(In response to this post by 33laszlo99)

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ACC contract fact mentioned on College Football Addiction
TDVick • 01/31/24 06:35 AM ET
So FSU only had to wait until 2026 and now they are suing?**
IB4TECH • 01/31/24 02:30 PM ET
Not necessarily, it sounds like a contingent contract where ESPN has all
TDVick • 01/31/24 10:16 PM ET
How much more would have been a "good" deal?
VTCALS72 • 02/01/24 08:46 AM ET
It seems to me that the idea of tying the ESPN deal to the GOR in the
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 10:25 AM ET
I dont think Miami has a guaranteed landing spot if ACC falls apart
Hokie83 • 01/31/24 12:25 PM ET
Note I was talking about the time the PAC broke up, not now.
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 12:58 PM ET
Thanks for the clarification :)**
Hokie83 • 01/31/24 01:48 PM ET
I agree with this. FSU takes one of Miami or Clemson with them. The one
Big12 guy • 01/31/24 12:49 PM ET
As for #5, the PAC deal...
EDGEMAN • 01/31/24 11:33 AM ET
I think they got sunk because their deal was up.
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 12:52 PM ET
I'm so old, I can remember when being stuck 'til 2036 was bad**
daveinop • 01/31/24 08:00 AM ET
ESPN drop one of the most favorable deals they have?
HOO86 • 01/31/24 07:50 AM ET
It is no longer even close to favorable deal
HokieZig • 01/31/24 02:40 PM ET
Yeah. Seems like what ESPN is paying now is WAY OVERPRICED to what the ACC
TDVick • 01/31/24 10:23 PM ET
Well in 2023 ACC was 6-4 over the SEC and 4-3 over B1G in football.
HOO86 • 02/02/24 12:59 PM ET
if they go to market now, it would land between Big 12 and SEC
daveinop • 02/01/24 09:07 AM ET
I still believe these additions would not have occurred without ESPN's not
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 08:54 PM ET
My understanding from posts at the time.
HOO86 • 02/02/24 10:18 AM ET
ESPN offered the PAC12 $100 million per year.
HOO86 • 01/31/24 03:48 PM ET
Also remember
HokieZig • 01/31/24 04:58 PM ET
They said no to a merger because they wouldn't accept 10 new pro-rata adds.
HOO86 • 01/31/24 07:08 PM ET
Where are you seeing that?
HokieZig • 01/31/24 04:52 PM ET
It was this deal.
HOO86 • 01/31/24 06:57 PM ET
It was during the time when the Apple deal came out.
HOO86 • 01/31/24 05:56 PM ET
If that's the case, why would FSU, UNC, and Clemson oppose?
daveinop • 01/31/24 03:07 PM ET
Because there are now 3 more votes that prevents the conference
Big12 guy • 01/31/24 03:53 PM ET
If the TV deal dies, the GOR likely dies with it. Then it's exit fee
daveinop • 01/31/24 04:47 PM ET
GOR will most likely survive this lawsuit.
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 09:08 PM ET
I think the GOR survives the FSU suit as well, but not ESPN pulling out
daveinop • 02/01/24 07:16 AM ET
What if ESPN is replaced by say Amazon?
VTCALS72 • 02/01/24 08:25 AM ET
not at all. I'm saying that legally, the GOR would have to be amended
daveinop • 02/01/24 12:45 PM ET
Why do you think the GOR would have to be amended at all?
VTCALS72 • 02/01/24 02:44 PM ET
read it
daveinop • 02/01/24 04:28 PM ET
I did and I still don't see anything that ties the each school to the ESPN
VTCALS72 • 02/01/24 05:44 PM ET
first sentences in sections 1 and 8
daveinop • 02/02/24 07:55 AM ET
Because "ESPN Agreement" is mentioned throughout the document, one could
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 05:14 PM ET
I think your was is closer than part of the same contract
VTCALS72 • 02/05/24 01:14 PM ET
It can't be the same contract through because the parties in each contract
VTHokie2000 • 02/06/24 02:08 PM ET
How much of a say does the ACC really have at the next look-in? I ask
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 02:04 PM ET
What is the real point.......
2hhoop3 • 02/02/24 01:18 PM ET
This all went down towards the end of Swofford's tenure. One could even
VTHokie2000 • 02/02/24 03:37 PM ET
Like I said.......
2hhoop3 • 02/02/24 03:52 PM ET
It doesn't mean we won't see members try to escape their portion of the
VTHokie2000 • 02/02/24 04:07 PM ET
A number......
2hhoop3 • 02/02/24 04:24 PM ET
A portion of it will play out in the courts. How much remains to be seen.
VTHokie2000 • 02/02/24 04:35 PM ET
no idea; but it was touted by the AD's when it was signed**
daveinop • 02/01/24 04:30 PM ET
If ESPN decides to exercise the option, then we will see if they were right
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 05:01 PM ET
for sure**
daveinop • 02/02/24 07:56 AM ET
If Amazon were to replace ESPN, then it could be interesting to know the
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 12:05 PM ET
The ACCN is a linear channel Amazon might be interested in. **
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 01:22 PM ET
I agree that Amazon could be interested in the ACCN. It is even possible
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 01:57 PM ET
Why would ESPN sell the ACCN to Amazon? Why would Amazon pay for a linear
33laszlo99 • 02/01/24 02:50 PM ET
Ummm...where do I say that ESPN sells the ACCN to Amazon?
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 04:56 PM ET
Do I misunderstand: "I agree that Amazon could be interested in the ACCN**
33laszlo99 • 02/01/24 06:08 PM ET
If you are referring to your question about ESPN selling the ACCN, then
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 07:16 PM ET
You do understand that the ACCN is owned 100% by ESPN, right? The ACC may
33laszlo99 • 02/04/24 11:14 PM ET
Given that ESPN is looking for ways to reduce cost, I would expect a deal
VTHokie2000 • 02/06/24 01:18 PM ET
OK, so if Amazon owns the rights, they can easily sublease content to ESPN,
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 02:05 PM ET
If we assume Amazon's deal with the ACC is modeled after or similar to its
VTHokie2000 • 02/01/24 02:19 PM ET
From my perspective, I just don't see how it is ESPN's best interest to
Big12 guy • 01/31/24 05:23 PM ET
Why? Big 12 lucked out when the PAC stupidly turned down ESPN's first offer
daveinop • 02/01/24 01:10 PM ET
Why what? **
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 01:12 PM ET
"Why did the B12 get such a good deal?" (you, 1/31, directly above) **
daveinop • 02/01/24 04:38 PM ET
Seems to me .......
2hhoop3 • 02/01/24 01:25 PM ET
correct**
daveinop • 02/01/24 04:39 PM ET
OK, and you will find no disagreement here, but you can not ignore
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 01:32 PM ET
no collusion; just Pac 12 misplaying their hand
daveinop • 02/01/24 04:52 PM ET
Did they really.......
2hhoop3 • 02/01/24 01:39 PM ET
There is nothing to back that up. It's a theory. The fact is they
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 01:50 PM ET
ESPN giving pro rata for the G5's was part of smoothing over
daveinop • 02/01/24 05:05 PM ET
We both have a theory.......
2hhoop3 • 02/01/24 02:02 PM ET
No, based on what I have read, the ACC has the position that unless they
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 02:10 PM ET
The possible......
2hhoop3 • 02/01/24 02:19 PM ET
Right, and limited timeslots in other time zones and markets. **
Big12 guy • 02/01/24 02:22 PM ET
What do you mean.....
2hhoop3 • 02/01/24 02:25 PM ET
Say thank you to the ACC GOR
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 10:15 PM ET
I don't think it is either**
daveinop • 01/31/24 05:54 PM ET
If Disney was smart they'd exercise the option to extend the contract now.
tarheelblue • 01/31/24 12:42 PM ET
And by not exercising that option, is ESPN making a statement?**
33laszlo99 • 02/01/24 03:46 PM ET
that they want to remain as flexible as possible for a prospective buyer** ◄
daveinop • 02/01/24 04:35 PM ET
Good Point. Hadn't thought of that.
HOO86 • 01/31/24 01:13 PM ET
reasonable**
VTCALS72 • 01/31/24 10:32 AM ET
ESPN is definitely making cash on the ACCN
EDGEMAN • 01/31/24 09:26 AM ET
That's what I was trying to say. I don't think so either. **
HOO86 • 01/31/24 10:14 AM ET
The sports media rights market of only a few years ago no longer exist.
WBGV • 01/31/24 10:42 AM ET
You do know that consumers still pay for content with streaming services
EDGEMAN • 01/31/24 11:36 AM ET
The “streaming service model” dosen’t seem to be near as profitable
WBGV • 01/31/24 12:03 PM ET
Yet. That is true.
HOO86 • 01/31/24 03:55 PM ET
I used the YouTube TV model which has all of the ESPN channels, but...
EDGEMAN • 01/31/24 03:37 PM ET