Enrollment is the biggest thing universities strive for. That, and the
ability to attract and retain top professors and research programs. Being an AAU member, rather than not, only helps in the applications for more research dollars.
I, however agree with you - a good education is not the amount of research dollars the institution receives. They are, and should be there, for the students first - hands down. What they have evolved to however, is a bit different than what they were created for.
Thread Replies (55)
Virginia Tech in the AAU?
-- Jefferson Hokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 01:04 AM ET
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06/10/24 01:04 AM ET
UGA, VT, FSU and NCSU cluster look like good fits. UGA is becoming quite
-- TDVick
Jun 10, 2024 at 04:22 PM ET
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06/10/24 04:22 PM ET
If you want to avoid the Altimore bias download the data yourself:
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 10, 2024 at 02:39 PM ET
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06/10/24 02:39 PM ET
Wow how did KU, UO and Mizzou get in?
-- Marooned
Jun 10, 2024 at 12:26 PM ET
Marooned
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06/10/24 12:26 PM ET
I'm not sure about KU and Oregon, but the story I heard about Missouri was
-- TDVick
Jun 10, 2024 at 04:27 PM ET
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06/10/24 04:27 PM ET
Never happened man like the round earth the ACC lovers will say it is so,
-- jdkhokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 09:28 PM ET
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06/10/24 09:28 PM ET
Because that graph isn't how AAU membership is decided
-- Pylons
Jun 10, 2024 at 04:22 PM ET
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06/10/24 04:22 PM ET
I get that there are other factors but
-- Marooned
Jun 10, 2024 at 09:32 PM ET
Marooned
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06/10/24 09:32 PM ET
Not entirely useless info, but fuels wishful thinking more than it informs.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 14, 2024 at 01:54 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/14/24 01:54 PM ET
I think I'll take the Groucho Marx approach.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 10, 2024 at 01:28 PM ET
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06/10/24 01:28 PM ET
i think KU is pretty good academically, no?**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 12:30 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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06/10/24 12:30 PM ET
NO!! U S News ranking is 151. **
-- ancient alien 2018
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:21 PM ET
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06/10/24 10:21 PM ET
Admissions are easy; education quality is great, though**
-- hokie_jayhawk
Jun 10, 2024 at 05:04 PM ET
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06/10/24 05:04 PM ET
Kansas? I don’t think so.**
-- HwoodHokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 12:56 PM ET
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06/10/24 12:56 PM ET
KU has the same text books as VaTech,
-- VPI 1924
Jun 10, 2024 at 03:33 PM ET
VPI 1924
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06/10/24 03:33 PM ET
WTF??? And of course textbooks are the end all of a University education??
-- ancient alien 2018
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:23 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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06/10/24 10:23 PM ET
If you were to make a chart of YouTubers with the worst record on
-- WBGV
Jun 10, 2024 at 11:45 AM ET
WBGV
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06/10/24 11:45 AM ET
This chart assumes X & Y are weighted equally. They're not. And where's Z?
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:34 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/10/24 10:34 AM ET
on top of ole's smokey**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 05:43 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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06/10/24 05:43 PM ET
I am wondering the same...
-- The_VT_Rock
Jun 10, 2024 at 01:00 PM ET
The_VT_Rock
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06/10/24 01:00 PM ET
Interesting chart that shows VT absolutely belongs...
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 10, 2024 at 09:50 AM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/10/24 09:50 AM ET
Or it's not nearly as straightforward as 2 criteria **
-- Pylons
Jun 10, 2024 at 02:32 PM ET
Pylons
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06/10/24 02:32 PM ET
True. Sounds like invitations are like March Madness and the eye test?
-- jesuisvtguy
Jun 10, 2024 at 02:37 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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06/10/24 02:37 PM ET
I don’t usually like his biased charts, but the AAU one is good
-- HokieAl
Jun 10, 2024 at 09:45 AM ET
HokieAl
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06/10/24 09:45 AM ET
On the bubble and first out, as usual.**
-- El Paso Hokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 05:59 PM ET
El Paso Hokie
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06/10/24 05:59 PM ET
Actually, because it is simple and straightforward,
-- Pylons
Jun 10, 2024 at 04:23 PM ET
Pylons
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06/10/24 04:23 PM ET
Simple, straightforward, consistent...and marginally meaningful.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:40 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/10/24 10:40 AM ET
I had a pretty good idea when I saw the last round of invitations.**
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:00 AM ET
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06/10/24 10:00 AM ET
VT accepted into the AAU would be huge, but that has very little
-- Big12 guy
Jun 10, 2024 at 08:17 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/10/24 08:17 AM ET
Why would it be huge? How does it help attract more research $ & students?**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:41 AM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/10/24 10:41 AM ET
It would provide critical window dressing for a B10 invite. AAU membership
-- TDVick
Jun 10, 2024 at 04:36 PM ET
TDVick
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06/10/24 04:36 PM ET
Yet another baseless assumption. And it still doesn't answer the question.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 13, 2024 at 03:03 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/13/24 03:03 PM ET
If it has any real sway, that's rather mind-boggling to me**
-- Pylons
Jun 10, 2024 at 05:47 PM ET
Pylons
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06/10/24 05:47 PM ET
It's about the relationships with those that approve the grants. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 10, 2024 at 11:00 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/10/24 11:00 AM ET
Well, I've been working in that industry for 40 years and...
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 13, 2024 at 03:08 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/13/24 03:08 PM ET
Relationships can certainly be a factor,
-- Pylons
Jun 10, 2024 at 03:36 PM ET
Pylons
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06/10/24 03:36 PM ET
Exactly. Almost every AAU narrative spouted here is 180 deg wrong.**
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 13, 2024 at 03:15 PM ET
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06/13/24 03:15 PM ET
But does every school need to attract more top students?
-- HokieAl
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:26 AM ET
HokieAl
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06/10/24 10:26 AM ET
Enrollment is the biggest thing universities strive for. That, and the
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-- Big12 guy
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/10/24 10:38 AM ET
False. Again, AAU has ZERO impact on student recruitment or research $$.
-- marcbvtgm
Jun 14, 2024 at 12:54 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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06/14/24 12:54 PM ET
Ive heard from high folks at vt very close
-- DMV Gobbler
Jun 10, 2024 at 07:56 AM ET
DMV Gobbler
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06/10/24 07:56 AM ET
Don't pay attention to high folks.**
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 10, 2024 at 01:26 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/10/24 01:26 PM ET
It is actively being pursued. No timeline as of yet but
-- Gobbler95
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:09 AM ET
Gobbler95
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06/10/24 10:09 AM ET
10 years ago, I heard from high folks at VT that we were close. Who knows**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:05 AM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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06/10/24 10:05 AM ET
We are above and to the right of quite a few AAU members on that chart
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 10, 2024 at 08:31 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/10/24 08:31 AM ET
It’s not just the research dollars
-- dayooper
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:04 AM ET
dayooper
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06/10/24 10:04 AM ET
How much funded research isn't "competitive"?**
-- Pylons
Jun 10, 2024 at 04:28 PM ET
Pylons
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06/10/24 04:28 PM ET
Apparently Ag grants are allocated willy-nilly except for those labelled
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 10, 2024 at 06:09 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/10/24 06:09 PM ET
Are you saying VT is not an engineering school?**
-- Concord Dan
Jun 10, 2024 at 10:41 AM ET
Concord Dan
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06/10/24 10:41 AM ET
The Big 10 can't have them, we call dibs. **
-- Big12 guy
Jun 10, 2024 at 05:31 PM ET
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06/10/24 05:31 PM ET