Sure.
Right now, the ACC is much stronger than they think. The problem is, that 1/2 of the conference has publically made it clear that they are NOT happy with the status quo.
What happened?
4 top football blue bloods changed conferences, and the Big 10 got a media contract that is off the charts.
OMG - the B12 is the next Big east!. - We have to keep up or we won't compete! - We have to be the third best conference! We are worth more than they are contracted to pay us !!!!!!!!! We need to dump 1/2 of the conference because they are dead weight! (just a few from the hip, but there are many more)
The PAC was OK, even when they lost USCLA. The problem was that they thought they were worth MUCH more than the media companies would pay . WHY? They have good football programs, they are off the charts academically, they actually, tongue in cheek, thought that their stuff didn't stink. Guess what? It's an athletic conference, and the media contracts are based on advertising revenue - NOT who you think is better.
If you look at the New12, they all fill their football stadiums with fans as passionate as VT fans except Kansas and Houston. Show me another team in the New12 that doesn't fill or nearly fill their stadiums like VT.
The biggest threat to the PAC10 (before Colorado announced) was that a Colorado would not agree to uneven conference distribution. The media deal hasn't even been announced, yet you have the top two remaining blue bloods pleading to get out of the conference and go to the Big10, What the hell do you think a Colorado or Arizona would do - hope that they can keep the Magnificent 7 and take less money? No, they said the hell with that. (an analogy)
A Pitt, BC, Cuse, Wake, Louisville, or a team like that just may stand up and say - the hell with you guys, you want us out anyway. Why would they stick around when the rest of you have a foot out the door?
yep - I say Pitt is the linchpin, because if they finally have enough of the FSU, Clemson, NC, and the rest of the sevens stuff, THEY may leave, and there will be teams floundering like the PAC is now.
Thread Replies (47)
FSU no big loss but Clemson would be a big loss.**
-- BAMAHOKIE
Jul 31, 2023 at 07:42 PM ET
BAMAHOKIE
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07/31/23 07:42 PM ET
No one is leaving the ACC unless 7 other teams have agreed to leave
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:25 AM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/01/23 09:25 AM ET
Would they have to pay the GOR if 8 of them voted to dissolve it and/or...
-- CyberHokie
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:37 AM ET
CyberHokie
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08/01/23 10:37 AM ET
When you say acceptable landing spots, you are referring to the P2.
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:54 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 10:54 AM ET
I think Louisville and Cuse......
-- 2hhoop3
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:18 AM ET
2hhoop3
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08/01/23 11:18 AM ET
Both would be huge **
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:17 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/01/23 09:17 AM ET
Both programs always seemed like an odd fit for the SEC, especially Clemson**
-- uvabasher
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:04 AM ET
uvabasher
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08/01/23 09:04 AM ET
USCe and UF would agree with you**
-- Maroon Unit
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:37 AM ET
Maroon Unit
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08/01/23 10:37 AM ET
Nothing happens to the ACC without ND bring first to leave. **
-- Gator Hokie
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:00 AM ET
Gator Hokie
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08/01/23 09:00 AM ET
would ND prefer the status quo?
-- kingofcassell
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:08 AM ET
kingofcassell
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08/01/23 10:08 AM ET
I would think ND would want the ACC to stay
-- vtka93
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:47 AM ET
vtka93
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08/01/23 10:47 AM ET
ND received $17.4 million from the ACC in 2021
-- TerryD
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:32 AM ET
TerryD
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08/01/23 11:32 AM ET
They would both be a big loss
-- OrlandoHokie
Aug 01, 2023 at 12:02 AM ET
OrlandoHokie
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08/01/23 12:02 AM ET
FSU would be a much bigger loss. **
-- reestuart
Jul 31, 2023 at 11:04 PM ET
reestuart
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07/31/23 11:04 PM ET
unless they can break the GOR, they would both be a big gain to the ACC.
-- wwhokie1
Jul 31, 2023 at 10:17 PM ET
wwhokie1
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07/31/23 10:17 PM ET
If one school can open that door, then more will probably follow*****
-- vtka93
Jul 31, 2023 at 10:08 PM ET
vtka93
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07/31/23 10:08 PM ET
FSU would be a huge loss. Everything would collapse from there**
-- hokiesrule98
Jul 31, 2023 at 10:06 PM ET
hokiesrule98
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07/31/23 10:06 PM ET
I cannot accept or fathom FSU will go all in now
-- goldendomer
Jul 31, 2023 at 09:38 PM ET
goldendomer
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07/31/23 09:38 PM ET
Can't afford to now or they would have already bolted **
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:18 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/01/23 09:18 AM ET
If the Big Ten and FSU announced sometime this season that FSU would be
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 31, 2023 at 11:59 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/31/23 11:59 PM ET
Announcing they are leaving in 13 years is beyond stupid
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 01, 2023 at 08:45 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/01/23 08:45 AM ET
The decision could serve as negotiation ploy, but it could also serve as
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:46 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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08/01/23 10:46 AM ET
Agree. Bad enough when you announce 3 years in advance**
-- DarylS
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:51 AM ET
DarylS
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08/01/23 09:51 AM ET
I think you nailed it, this is IMHO a message to ESPN more than anyone,
-- Stech
Aug 01, 2023 at 07:22 AM ET
Stech
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08/01/23 07:22 AM ET
It not only would bring ESPN to the table, but it could also eventually
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:02 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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08/01/23 11:02 AM ET
Eventually their reactions would become public because nothing remains a
-- VTHokie2000
Aug 01, 2023 at 05:39 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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08/01/23 05:39 AM ET
Only people who think logically and critically think this***
-- vtka93
Jul 31, 2023 at 09:44 PM ET
vtka93
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07/31/23 09:44 PM ET
At this point, Pitt would be a major loss. **
-- Big12 guy
Jul 31, 2023 at 09:23 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/31/23 09:23 PM ET
Major? Not really **
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:18 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/01/23 09:18 AM ET
Here’s the thing with that line of thinking. (It’s all about risk)
-- hokieZ71
Aug 01, 2023 at 06:40 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/01/23 06:40 AM ET
it's why I picked them as an example. Add Louisville, Cuse, and
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 10:57 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 10:57 AM ET
You're assuming the Mag 7 is trying to destroy the ACC.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:31 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/01/23 11:31 AM ET
This (the ACC) has nothing to do with the B12. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:36 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 11:36 AM ET
Its a comparison. Comparisons exist on a different plane than causality.
-- hokieZ71
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:48 AM ET
hokieZ71
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08/01/23 11:48 AM ET
Colorado was not a major loss to the PAC either. I used Pitt
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 02:40 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 02:40 PM ET
So the B12 loses Texas, Okla, Nebraska, Missouri & the ACC can’t lose Pitt?
-- Stech
Jul 31, 2023 at 09:55 PM ET
Stech
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07/31/23 09:55 PM ET
Pitt it isn't leaving unless they have a ton of cash I don't know about **
-- HokiesACC2004
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:20 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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08/01/23 09:20 AM ET
For now, I agree, but if the 7 leave, ....**
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 09:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 09:58 AM ET
The "Other 7" ACC schools aren't going to leave because...
-- Old Line Hokie
Jul 31, 2023 at 11:25 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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07/31/23 11:25 PM ET
Had you said Clemson or FSU, I could follow, but Pitt struggles to sellout
-- Stech
Jul 31, 2023 at 11:18 PM ET
Stech
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07/31/23 11:18 PM ET
One flaw in your thinking......
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 31, 2023 at 11:01 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/31/23 11:01 PM ET
For now, that is true. What is happening now with FSU and others
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 08:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 08:58 AM ET
No, that isn't my opinion at all. You are right that NO ONE knows
-- Big12 guy
Aug 01, 2023 at 11:08 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/01/23 11:08 AM ET