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Nope. But their inclusion in this Mag7 group isn’t by mistake.
Stuff like that doesn’t get out by accident. FSU, Clemson, UNC and Miami are obvious targets for major leagues if they decide to expand. UVA, VT and NC State being attached to that group is by design. Conference boundaries matter, large and growing state populations matter, fanbases that support and watch the product matter. State supported institutions matter to the state governments.
We saw this in CA. UCLA is going to pay Cal up to $10M a year that it’s in the B1G. Maybe forever. State supported schools who are looking at making a move to a P2 league that could adversely affect their in state counterparts to such a large degree aren’t going to sneak by like USC and UCLA. That cat’s out of the bag.
The public’s response to realignment is to take something a blowhard like Paul Finebaum says and run with it. His job is to generate interest. But school and conference administrators on the whole aren’t so capricious. (FSU might be the exception here) Hence knowing absolutely nothing about USC and UCLA to the B1G until the day it happened. And Texas/OU to the SEC the year before. And Maryland to the B1G. That’s not happening anymore because it’s become an everyday talking point because it’s so impactful.
Looking back, VT and Miami to the ACC was so public, conference commissioners looking to expand started going dark due to all the contentious legal battles that occurred during the open courtship period of the ACC in 2003. But just because these announcements are so sudden doesn’t mean due diligence isn’t taking precedence. I imagine the latest SEC and B1G moves were at least a year in the making.
Which all leads me to my initial point. The four NC and VA state schools would have to see the value in linking themselves together. Who wants to be USC and UCLA in the Big Ten? Or Miami in the Big Ten? Or West Virginia in the Big XII? It’s all going to crumble down at some point and leadership would be to align yourselves now with who you want to stay connected to for the future.
At least it makes sense to me that way.
Thread Replies (48)
Would the Hokies be a good fit for the Big12?
-- JKHokie-RunFor32
Jul 29, 2023 at 09:50 AM ET
JKHokie-RunFor32
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07/29/23 09:50 AM ET
If VT ends up in the B12 we won't be alone.
-- Truthahn
Jul 30, 2023 at 06:09 PM ET
Truthahn
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07/30/23 06:09 PM ET
All comes down to $ these days.
-- Full-Set and Moonshine
Jul 30, 2023 at 11:14 AM ET
Full-Set and Moonshine
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07/30/23 11:14 AM ET
Wouldn't be my first or second choice **
-- HokiesACC2004
Jul 30, 2023 at 03:38 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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07/30/23 03:38 AM ET
Sounds like #TXtoVT LOL**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Jul 29, 2023 at 07:17 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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07/29/23 07:17 PM ET
More like #VTtoTX**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Jul 29, 2023 at 09:25 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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07/29/23 09:25 PM ET
Only if and after the ACC implodes. Near 2036. And even then, the BigXII
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 29, 2023 at 11:23 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/29/23 11:23 AM ET
Oregon & Washington will end up in the B1G.
-- Full-Set and Moonshine
Jul 30, 2023 at 11:16 AM ET
Full-Set and Moonshine
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07/30/23 11:16 AM ET
People keep saying that. But if Oregon and Washington aren't acceptable
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 30, 2023 at 11:37 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/30/23 11:37 AM ET
ABSOLUTELY NOT. VT would rather stay in the ACC than Big 12. case closed
-- Mercury
Jul 29, 2023 at 11:19 AM ET
Mercury
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07/29/23 11:19 AM ET
Whit would be involved…come on.**
-- JKHokie-RunFor32
Jul 29, 2023 at 11:47 AM ET
JKHokie-RunFor32
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07/29/23 11:47 AM ET
Im not saying that, but he would not be behind the scenes negotiator
-- Mercury
Jul 29, 2023 at 04:30 PM ET
Mercury
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07/29/23 04:30 PM ET
No one said anything about Whit doing anything unilaterally
-- Pylons
Jul 29, 2023 at 07:04 PM ET
Pylons
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07/29/23 07:04 PM ET
The SEC and BIG are here to stay. Everything else is a toss up. **
-- JKHokie-RunFor32
Jul 29, 2023 at 06:04 PM ET
JKHokie-RunFor32
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07/29/23 06:04 PM ET
It’s not the best fit IMO but not bad - especially if B12 includes VT WVU
-- Hokie12thman
Jul 29, 2023 at 11:19 AM ET
Hokie12thman
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07/29/23 11:19 AM ET
The Big 12 of today is still morphing into what it will be.
-- Marooned
Jul 29, 2023 at 12:58 PM ET
Marooned
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07/29/23 12:58 PM ET
If Mexico TV proves to be profitable, I'd be surprised.
-- Truthahn
Jul 30, 2023 at 06:12 PM ET
Truthahn
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07/30/23 06:12 PM ET
Let’s be honest. Brett Yormark isn’t long for the Big XII.
-- hokieZ71
Jul 29, 2023 at 09:35 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/29/23 09:35 PM ET
I agree. But I think some of their adds have been suspect WRT football.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 29, 2023 at 01:45 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/29/23 01:45 PM ET
I’d watch UCF over Colo. jmo but UCF is getting bigger than Colo. ever will**
-- cricket77
Jul 29, 2023 at 04:32 PM ET
cricket77
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07/29/23 04:32 PM ET
Not sure why BYU or Colorado are "great"
-- Pylons
Jul 29, 2023 at 02:43 PM ET
Pylons
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07/29/23 02:43 PM ET
I thought UCF has really been growing as a university/enrollment. I'm not
-- 132863Hokie
Jul 29, 2023 at 01:56 PM ET
132863Hokie
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07/29/23 01:56 PM ET
Second largest university in the country by enrollment
-- VPI_1998
Jul 29, 2023 at 08:37 PM ET
VPI_1998
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07/29/23 08:37 PM ET
We really should encourage GT to merge with Georgia State
-- Truthahn
Jul 30, 2023 at 06:16 PM ET
Truthahn
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07/30/23 06:16 PM ET
Hokies are best aligned with UVA, NC State and UNC
-- hokieZ71
Jul 29, 2023 at 10:09 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/29/23 10:09 AM ET
I approve this message **
-- HokiesACC2004
Jul 30, 2023 at 03:40 AM ET
HokiesACC2004
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07/30/23 03:40 AM ET
Any ideas on what these four schools are doing in the background?**
-- 132863Hokie
Jul 29, 2023 at 10:49 AM ET
132863Hokie
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07/29/23 10:49 AM ET
Nope. But their inclusion in this Mag7 group isn’t by mistake.
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-- hokieZ71
Jul 29, 2023 at 12:08 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/29/23 12:08 PM ET
Thanks. It makes sense to me that way too. Not just on the athletic side
-- 132863Hokie
Jul 29, 2023 at 12:59 PM ET
132863Hokie
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07/29/23 12:59 PM ET
Research partnerships have nothing to do with athletic conferences**
-- Pylons
Jul 29, 2023 at 04:05 PM ET
Pylons
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07/29/23 04:05 PM ET
Has a school ever moved to an academically inferior conference of schools?**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 29, 2023 at 05:20 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/29/23 05:20 PM ET
Move from any conference to the SEC and you'll see it**
-- VPI_1998
Jul 30, 2023 at 09:14 AM ET
VPI_1998
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07/30/23 09:14 AM ET
But in the last 40 yrs, the SEC has only added from the Big XII/SWC, right?**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 30, 2023 at 09:21 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/30/23 09:21 AM ET
Technically yes, not counting South Carolina as an Indy/Metro
-- VPI_1998
Jul 30, 2023 at 09:29 AM ET
VPI_1998
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07/30/23 09:29 AM ET
I know. They’re about to get a few more in the next decade or so.**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 30, 2023 at 09:44 AM ET
hokieZ71
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07/30/23 09:44 AM ET
These decisions are ultimately made by the Presidents and Board.
-- 132863Hokie
Jul 29, 2023 at 06:59 PM ET
132863Hokie
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07/29/23 06:59 PM ET
Research or other academic partnerships
-- Pylons
Jul 29, 2023 at 09:41 PM ET
Pylons
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07/29/23 09:41 PM ET
I don't know. It's a rather meaningless question.
-- Pylons
Jul 29, 2023 at 06:06 PM ET
Pylons
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07/29/23 06:06 PM ET
That wasn’t my question. Which you failed to answer**
-- hokieZ71
Jul 29, 2023 at 08:47 PM ET
hokieZ71
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07/29/23 08:47 PM ET
Yeah…this is news to me. **
-- JKHokie-RunFor32
Jul 29, 2023 at 11:48 AM ET
JKHokie-RunFor32
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07/29/23 11:48 AM ET