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Bingo on the "Top 25" number. Anyone looking to remove "bias" should start
by ignoring polls. And what is so magical about 25? Why not 16 or 5 or 29?
I'm old enough to remember the AP Top 20. Not sure why expanding that to 25 was even necessary, but whatever.
And if you are using polls as a barometer at all, they are inherently biased. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. And it's a bit of a fool's errand to find a fixed point as a foundation to figure ANY of this selection process out objectively. I also remember when people complained about the computers.
And I agree that no team left out this year has a beef. In the end, I just hope an undefeated team doesn't get left out. That was always my biggest complaint about the systems in the past. In no other serious sports league is an undefeated team prevented from challenging for the top prize. In the end, I hope that championships continue to be a valued criterion. But conference realignment (read: TV networks) have made this more challenging criterion to uphold.
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 12/27/2024, 11:22:44 AM
Thread Replies (30)
If you could set th rankings criteria for the playoff, what would be in it?
-- Stech
Dec 26, 2024 at 11:24 AM ET
Stech
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12/26/24 11:24 AM ET
The argument, I suppose, is whether you are crowning the best or a champion
-- Hokester
Dec 30, 2024 at 09:54 AM ET
Hokester
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12/30/24 09:54 AM ET
That would be the ideal way, but obviously the SEC and Big10 would...
-- cincyhokie
Jan 01, 2025 at 01:16 PM ET
cincyhokie
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01/01/25 01:16 PM ET
Remember, the 2 team BCS used a compilation of computer rankings
-- PadrosWindup
Dec 28, 2024 at 10:01 AM ET
PadrosWindup
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12/28/24 10:01 AM ET
Some objective mathematical criteria is better than none, we can & should
-- Stech
Dec 28, 2024 at 10:19 AM ET
Stech
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12/28/24 10:19 AM ET
I would do it like European soccer.
-- Gobbler-100
Dec 27, 2024 at 09:55 PM ET
Gobbler-100
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12/27/24 09:55 PM ET
No rankings until November 1
-- mrcaniac
Dec 27, 2024 at 07:25 PM ET
mrcaniac
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12/27/24 07:25 PM ET
Unfortunately you can’t stop the media from having polls. And then pundits
-- IB4TECH
Dec 27, 2024 at 08:55 PM ET
IB4TECH
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12/27/24 08:55 PM ET
Can stop using their polls in the CFP rankings though**
-- mrcaniac
Dec 28, 2024 at 06:28 PM ET
mrcaniac
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12/28/24 06:28 PM ET
Something not talked about enough: the college football punditry class love
-- Maroon Baboon
Dec 27, 2024 at 10:26 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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12/27/24 10:26 PM ET
Most objective way to make changes is to do relegation and promotion.
-- Maroon Baboon
Dec 27, 2024 at 07:01 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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12/27/24 07:01 PM ET
Something like this. A minimum of 9 wins, and win your bowl game.
-- Truthahn
Dec 27, 2024 at 01:25 PM ET
Truthahn
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12/27/24 01:25 PM ET
If you are going to introduce "math", just use computer rankings...
-- jesuisvtguy
Dec 27, 2024 at 12:55 AM ET
jesuisvtguy
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12/27/24 12:55 AM ET
Like your more equitable math suggestion on who u beat, opinion domination
-- Stech
Dec 27, 2024 at 04:19 PM ET
Stech
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12/27/24 04:19 PM ET
Bingo on the "Top 25" number. Anyone looking to remove "bias" should start
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-- Maroon Baboon
Dec 27, 2024 at 10:46 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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12/27/24 10:46 AM ET
Only computer rankings that have zero input from polls.
-- EDGEMAN
Dec 27, 2024 at 10:17 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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12/27/24 10:17 AM ET
Exactly, not only the P2, but everyone including ND would play more tough
-- Stech
Dec 27, 2024 at 04:23 PM ET
Stech
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12/27/24 04:23 PM ET
Correct. No "experts" allowed, only cold hard data bits.**
-- Hokester
Dec 27, 2024 at 12:32 PM ET
Hokester
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12/27/24 12:32 PM ET
i don't think it matters
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Dec 26, 2024 at 06:02 PM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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12/26/24 06:02 PM ET
It matters to encourage parity.
-- Truthahn
Dec 27, 2024 at 01:27 PM ET
Truthahn
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12/27/24 01:27 PM ET
Beat UVA, you’re in playoff.
-- lawhokie
Dec 26, 2024 at 11:50 AM ET
lawhokie
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12/26/24 11:50 AM ET
That would only fly, if UVA went to P2.**
-- manassashoo
Dec 27, 2024 at 09:54 AM ET
manassashoo
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12/27/24 09:54 AM ET
Conference winners only. Let the conferences split up, and only
-- Big12 guy
Dec 26, 2024 at 11:38 AM ET
Big12 guy
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12/26/24 11:38 AM ET
What's nice about this is that all participants are decided on the field.**
-- Hokester
Dec 27, 2024 at 12:35 PM ET
Hokester
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12/27/24 12:35 PM ET
If interested n fairness or integrity, they would, but their goal is 💵💵💵
-- Stech
Dec 26, 2024 at 02:44 PM ET
Stech
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12/26/24 02:44 PM ET
The total purse will be the same regardless of who is in it
-- daveinop
Dec 27, 2024 at 08:07 AM ET
daveinop
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12/27/24 08:07 AM ET
I would do more NFL style with even smaller groupings
-- HokieAl
Dec 26, 2024 at 02:29 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/26/24 02:29 PM ET
This makes the most sense **
-- CrystalCoveHokie
Dec 26, 2024 at 12:01 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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12/26/24 12:01 PM ET