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HokieAl
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These lines just amaze me

Regarding NIL “The fact that funds are provided by a private source does not relieve a school of its responsibility” “Title IX is not based on the market. If the market discriminates, the schools cannot,” Bryant said. “The school can’t use a marketing agency to avoid Title IX.” “Schools remain responsible for ensuring that they are offering equal athletic opportunities in their athletic programs, including in the NIL context,” the guidance says. “A school may violate Title IX if the school fails to provide equivalent benefits, opportunities and treatment in the components of the school’s athletic program that relate to NIL activities.” Feels like they are waaay overstepping their authority with this guidance. If this holds, a lot of men’s sports are at major risk of getting cut.
Posted: 01/17/2025 at 08:35 AM ET
(In response to this post by mrcaniac)

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As expected USDOE says NIL/Rev Distribution must be equally distributed
mrcaniac • 01/16/25 11:27 PM ET
I think it’s important to put this advisory letter in context…
lawhokie • 01/18/25 09:53 PM ET
The hypocrisy of stuff like this is a never ending source of amusement 2 me
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/25 03:34 PM ET
Simple Solution...
Whiskeyandfootball • 01/18/25 08:40 PM ET
That will not happen. Providing equal scholarships is one thing, but equal
wwhokie1 • 01/18/25 06:27 PM ET
It's "guidance." Not a court ruling.
Pylons • 01/17/25 05:31 PM ET
I think the shame of it all is that so much money will be spent…
lawhokie • 01/18/25 10:13 PM ET
Thanks for clarifying Pylons.**
Stech • 01/18/25 07:21 AM ET
So ridiculous. Why would an entity that wants to give NIL money to say the
cincyhokie • 01/17/25 10:40 AM ET
It's not just about "opportunity," it's very broadly about equity.
Pylons • 01/17/25 05:34 PM ET
“NIL between an athlete & a company would not fall under it.” This happens,
Stech • 01/17/25 01:17 PM ET
Collective *shouldn't* fall under it, except
Pylons • 01/17/25 05:35 PM ET
Yup. Money will just go underground again if that's the case.
Maroon Baboon • 01/17/25 12:53 PM ET
Doesn’t have to go underground, it can go directly from company to a player
Stech • 01/17/25 01:33 PM ET
existence of an easy workaround indicates that a suit is a waste of time
lawhokie • 01/18/25 10:06 PM ET
Yes. Either way, the money will get to where the givers want it to go.**
Maroon Baboon • 01/17/25 01:45 PM ET
Maybe it is time US collegiate athletics adopt a similar structure as what
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 02:35 PM ET
That's pretty much how I'm seeing it. The school run collectives are toast.
reestuart • 01/17/25 01:40 PM ET
I also don't think they wanted to be involved in it.**
Maroon Baboon • 01/17/25 01:44 PM ET
I agree. As intended, NIL was going to be a good thing. Then some
reestuart • 01/17/25 01:46 PM ET
As long as a school receives federal funding, the federal government
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 12:00 PM ET
These lines just amaze me ◄
HokieAl • 01/17/25 08:35 AM ET
If the Department of Education goes away, does that eliminate Title IX? Or
Stech • 01/17/25 08:54 AM ET
Its a Federal law
TerryD • 01/17/25 10:08 AM ET
Thanks for the info TerryD! The consequences of this letter could be huge
Stech • 01/17/25 12:11 PM ET
The DOE apparently is the agency that enforces the law and
RJHokie • 01/17/25 10:31 AM ET
They don't make any *legal* rulings. Look at the language for what
Pylons • 01/17/25 05:38 PM ET
It is the agency that cites noncompliance with the rules though.
RJHokie • 01/17/25 06:08 PM ET
Right. And it should surprise no one that they've come out
Pylons • 01/17/25 06:16 PM ET
Yep. I would think new guidance will come soon with a new administration
HboroughHokie • 01/17/25 08:06 PM ET
Given some past decisions on an agency's responsibilities, it is hard to
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 11:46 AM ET
Yeah, who knows where Education would wind up.
RJHokie • 01/17/25 11:58 AM ET
Might go back to where it started
mrcaniac • 01/17/25 12:37 PM ET
Yeah, that’s probably what would happen. **
RJHokie • 01/17/25 12:45 PM ET
Historically it is very difficult for Congress to eliminate an agency once
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 12:05 PM ET
Yeah, pols will say anything to get votes.
RJHokie • 01/17/25 12:09 PM ET
If this decision sticks, I just see most schools drop a lot of programs
The_VT_Rock • 01/17/25 07:37 AM ET
Remember Title IX applies to both club and intramural sports too, so
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 12:19 PM ET
I agree with your concern, right now Title IX is about how many men & women
Stech • 01/17/25 08:42 AM ET
I was going to mention club sports...
The_VT_Rock • 01/17/25 09:17 AM ET
Methinks something happening on Monday may change this**
SMU Pony • 01/17/25 12:13 AM ET
Could happen
mrcaniac • 01/17/25 01:06 AM ET
I suppose the workaround is so obvious that ED shouldn’t bother
lawhokie • 01/20/25 11:03 AM ET
What if the Department of Education is eliminated? What effect would that
Stech • 01/17/25 09:50 AM ET
Title IX is law. The presence (or not) of agencies associated with it
Pylons • 01/17/25 05:42 PM ET
If you think the next administration is going to "eliminate" the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 01/17/25 10:25 AM ET
I don’t necessarily believe that, but it has been stated, and I wanted to
Stech • 01/17/25 12:15 PM ET
Given that Title IX also applies to club sports and intramural sports,
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 01:04 PM ET
Oregon’s Women’s Club Rowing team has a lawsuit suing for compensation too.
Stech • 01/17/25 01:27 PM ET
You were probably told correctly. Although I am not sure how the
VTHokie2000 • 01/17/25 01:36 PM ET
Interesting, do they have the authority to make that happen? What a game
Stech • 01/17/25 12:01 AM ET
DOE is in charge of Title IX
mrcaniac • 01/17/25 12:22 AM ET
And a school could sue to get funding returned.
Pylons • 01/17/25 05:44 PM ET
DOE = Department of Energy
EDGEMAN • 01/17/25 07:14 AM ET
Department of Education will not disappear
mrcaniac • 01/17/25 12:29 PM ET
It’s more likely to be dismantled and redistributed.
lawhokie • 01/18/25 09:36 PM ET
Sounds like a great idea!**
EDGEMAN • 01/17/25 12:31 PM ET
Their “authority” results from significant influence on school compliance
RJHokie • 01/17/25 12:20 AM ET
Thanks for the info **
Stech • 01/17/25 07:26 AM ET
The paid players should be able to separate themselves from the schools.
33laszlo99 • 01/17/25 12:41 AM ET