Sports radio in Raleigh insights.on how it may work
Was discussed on the radio in Raleigh. The understanding is that equity firm provides some amount of capital - $50M to $200M to a University athletic department or the University. In return the University is required to pay back an annual percentage starting at 20% of athletic revenue in the first year. This percentage slowly reduces until 100% of initial investment is paid back. After that, the equity firm is guaranteed 2% of all sports revenue for the University in perpetuity - i.e., forever.
I do not know where the percentages come from, but the key discussion point was in perpetuity. The argument was that regardless of what happens in the future, it is anticipated that revenue will continue to increase over the next century and beyond.
In general, the discussion was that no state or public entity could legally (or wisely) promise a portion of their revenues for perpetuity. It was discussed it would only be helpful in the case of a major one time expense (such as a stadium upgrade OR buying out of a conference).
It was also discussed that inevitably the government and politicians would be involved and that it is likely even illegal in many states to allow any agreement in perpetuity. In terms of long term agreements, even the British lease on Hong Kong and our base on Guantanamo Bay were limited to 99 or 100 year terms (my observation, not on the radio).
The related discussion was that a much more traditional and well established path for these large expenses is a loan - which universities can get and have gotten with very favorable terms as a public entity ultimately backed by the state.
All this said, if I was the private equity firm, I can think of no school that may be a higher risk in this scenario than Florida State. They have proven that they will do everything in the power to get out of a 25 year GOR agreement let alone providing a portion of their revenue in perpetuity.
All of this said, I have no idea as to the source of the numbers, etc, but it did provide some insights into how private equity would likely work. At the base is that the private equity firm's legal obligation is maximizing their return on investment for the shareholders.
** Edited by mjfhokie at 5/22/2024, 10:46:27 PM
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Thread Replies (41)
Private Equity should be signing up select schools soon. Free WSJ article
-- VintonHokies
May 22, 2024 at 10:46 AM ET
VintonHokies
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05/22/24 10:46 AM ET
Semihole involvement doesn't enhance their credibility.**
-- saret
May 23, 2024 at 09:19 AM ET
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05/23/24 09:19 AM ET
Sports radio in Raleigh insights.on how it may work
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-- mjfhokie
May 22, 2024 at 10:44 PM ET
mjfhokie
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05/22/24 10:44 PM ET
That doesn't seem like a deal at all worth pursuing for PE
-- Pylons
May 23, 2024 at 09:29 AM ET
Pylons
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05/23/24 09:29 AM ET
WRONG MATH: They get paid back ALL their money at a high interest rate...
-- jesuisvtguy
May 23, 2024 at 09:42 AM ET
jesuisvtguy
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05/23/24 09:42 AM ET
Well, the scenario I responded to wasn't
-- Pylons
May 23, 2024 at 09:58 AM ET
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05/23/24 09:58 AM ET
I'm reading the perpetuity continues AFTER money is paid back..
-- jesuisvtguy
May 23, 2024 at 12:19 PM ET
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05/23/24 12:19 PM ET
College Athletics are becoming more and more goFundMe's and kickstarters...
-- jesuisvtguy
May 22, 2024 at 07:34 PM ET
jesuisvtguy
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05/22/24 07:34 PM ET
What could possibly go wrong? 🤷♂️**
-- Stech
May 22, 2024 at 04:57 PM ET
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05/22/24 04:57 PM ET
Odds that FSU is first school to sign up? Ha. Would Weatherford have to
-- VintonHokies
May 22, 2024 at 06:24 PM ET
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05/22/24 06:24 PM ET
Describe how an equity firm makes "a ton of $" from a school
-- Pylons
May 22, 2024 at 06:54 PM ET
Pylons
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05/22/24 06:54 PM ET
It's the perfect business! You don't pay the employees! ... Oh, wait.**
-- Truthahn
May 24, 2024 at 12:23 PM ET
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05/24/24 12:23 PM ET
Not sure but isn’t that a PE’s goal? A return on investment. REI**
-- VintonHokies
May 22, 2024 at 07:19 PM ET
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05/22/24 07:19 PM ET
I'm not sure of the NCAA policy/voting process schedule, but there has
-- VT757to276
May 22, 2024 at 03:52 PM ET
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05/22/24 03:52 PM ET
Just wait til sovereign wealth funds join in! **
-- Va AandM
May 22, 2024 at 02:32 PM ET
Va AandM
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05/22/24 02:32 PM ET
So now you'll have a Private Equity and other shareholders making school
-- HokieToph
May 22, 2024 at 01:02 PM ET
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05/22/24 01:02 PM ET
Except there are no shares to hold
-- Pylons
May 22, 2024 at 05:49 PM ET
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05/22/24 05:49 PM ET
you aint' seen nothing yet my friend**
-- MrBayAreaHokie
May 22, 2024 at 01:16 PM ET
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05/22/24 01:16 PM ET
This just strengthens the reality of the strong getting stronger
-- GCHokieof91
May 22, 2024 at 12:40 PM ET
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05/22/24 12:40 PM ET
There goes the 501(c)(3), and the end of not for profit college athletics. **
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 10:51 AM ET
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05/22/24 10:51 AM ET
Athletics doesn't hold that status to lose it**
-- Pylons
May 22, 2024 at 05:50 PM ET
Pylons
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05/22/24 05:50 PM ET
Tongue in cheek for the "power" football schools, but the implications
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 02:31 PM ET
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05/22/24 02:31 PM ET
I agree that they will find ways to survive
-- HokieAl
May 22, 2024 at 03:08 PM ET
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05/22/24 03:08 PM ET
I hope it's a competitive solution where coaching and
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 03:12 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/24 03:12 PM ET
Currently, public athletic programs of most, if not all FBS
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 02:55 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/24 02:55 PM ET
Which AD's are separate legal entities? News to me.**
-- Pylons
May 22, 2024 at 06:56 PM ET
Pylons
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05/22/24 06:56 PM ET
In that matchup, academics lose in the first round**
-- HokieAl
May 22, 2024 at 06:02 PM ET
HokieAl
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05/22/24 06:02 PM ET
I'm all for the entertainment you suggest.**
-- saret
May 22, 2024 at 04:11 PM ET
saret
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05/22/24 04:11 PM ET
Is the fuse already lit? I'd pour a few drinks to watch that unfold. **
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 04:08 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/24 04:08 PM ET
It should be ended for colleges generally**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
May 22, 2024 at 01:43 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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05/22/24 01:43 PM ET
It's the donations that should concern the schools. There
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 01:53 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/24 01:53 PM ET
Im not really concerned about that…..I’m more concerned about….
-- CrystalCoveHokie
May 22, 2024 at 02:28 PM ET
CrystalCoveHokie
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05/22/24 02:28 PM ET
FWIW I believe some states have laws written in such a way that taxpayers'
-- VTHokie2000
May 22, 2024 at 06:39 PM ET
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05/22/24 06:39 PM ET
That is another issue for the publics, as the schools are subsidized by the
-- Big12 guy
May 22, 2024 at 02:33 PM ET
Big12 guy
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05/22/24 02:33 PM ET
I was really just thinking about deductibility of donations**
-- CrystalCoveHokie
May 22, 2024 at 04:47 PM ET
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05/22/24 04:47 PM ET