football that move the national needle that much. They are looking at brands and national appeal. FSU has the brand. Clemson, while a very good program, brings regional appeal, and they don't bring the ratings when they are not in the top 10. Let's be clear - when a team is ranked in the top 5, it doesn't matter where they are on the brand totem pole. TCU brought in large audiences because their games had national championship implications. This last year, their ratings fell off. So did Clemson's. This idea that there will be multiple teams going to the P2 from the ACC is insane, wishful thinking, and biased. There are only four teams in the ACC that may get invited. FSU, Clemson, UNC, and Miami. UVA will not get an invite. "Markets" and cable hookups are from the past. I really hope VT gets an invite, but the networks will not pay that much money to a 24 team conference. It's not happening unless the BIG and SEC merge, and shed their weak brands. Either the rest of us figure something out pretty quickly, there are going to be some really good athletic Universities playing in the G5 along with OSU and WSU. It's time to look at the basketball brands - it is there I think the next move will be after the P2 completes their consolidation.