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That ignores reality. LIV is paying these guys so much that they don't have
to play anywhere if they don't want to. And many people, like DJ, won't want to play more really than the LIV events and majors. So the PGA has no way of ensuring that they will have quality fields week in and week out because the guys won't honor the 15 tourney commitment, which means fewer ad dollars for PGA, which means smaller purses, and less to charity.
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they play for cash- they are golfers nothing else**
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 12:15 PM ET
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06/21/22 12:15 PM ET
In theory we fans have the "power" to make or break
-- Vippie1
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:01 PM ET
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06/21/22 04:01 PM ET
LIV doesn't care if you watch. They aren't trying to make money. **
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:13 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 04:13 PM ET
Yeah, it is a ploy for sports legitimization for them**
-- HOKIERIT
Jun 21, 2022 at 08:24 PM ET
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06/21/22 08:24 PM ET
Saudi's don't understand what motivates great players. Its the competition
-- Hokebury
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:47 PM ET
Hokebury
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06/21/22 03:47 PM ET
Then what's everybody worried about? Just let it play out. **
-- vthokieq
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:22 PM ET
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06/21/22 04:22 PM ET
Same thing most college football fans are worried about with NIL.
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:53 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 04:53 PM ET
Correction...it's not going to ruin the sport...just the governing body(s).
-- vthokieq
Jun 21, 2022 at 05:06 PM ET
vthokieq
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06/21/22 05:06 PM ET
B/c in effect the Saudis are buying people and paying them not to play.
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:26 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 04:26 PM ET
You mean paying them not to play where you want them to play.
-- vthokieq
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:57 PM ET
vthokieq
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06/21/22 04:57 PM ET
That ignores reality. LIV is paying these guys so much that they don't have
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-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 05:17 PM ET
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06/21/22 05:17 PM ET
It's both. And the "monopoly" argument does not apply here. This is not one
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 22, 2022 at 08:32 AM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/22/22 08:32 AM ET
Most of the other big tours are PGA affiliated are they not?
-- vthokieq
Jun 21, 2022 at 10:09 PM ET
vthokieq
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06/21/22 10:09 PM ET
that's because you are not a golfer. For most golfers,
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 22, 2022 at 08:34 AM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/22/22 08:34 AM ET
Plus if they don't see decent ROI, they'll move on to the next shiny thing.
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:57 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 03:57 PM ET
Guessing it won't be ROI that causes the issue
-- RTFC
Jun 21, 2022 at 05:59 PM ET
RTFC
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06/21/22 05:59 PM ET
Run a ramshackle driving range in West Texas**
-- HokieKip
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:03 PM ET
HokieKip
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06/21/22 04:03 PM ET
Become bitcoin entrepreneurs **
-- Hokebury
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:00 PM ET
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06/21/22 04:00 PM ET
Well, that's how the PGA can potentially combat this
-- Nova Hokie 95
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:36 PM ET
Nova Hokie 95
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06/21/22 02:36 PM ET
And Paulina says...
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:49 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 03:49 PM ET
Do they like the bikini pics on Instagram too?**
-- RoswellGAHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:06 PM ET
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06/21/22 04:06 PM ET
The question is will the allure of guaranteed money start upstart golfers
-- MCL3 Hokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:38 PM ET
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06/21/22 03:38 PM ET
well some are already going - Petit - piot etc..
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:53 PM ET
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06/21/22 03:53 PM ET
PGA Tour needs to start covering basic expenses of participants...
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:50 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 03:50 PM ET
Their sponsors typically cover those costs**
-- vt90
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:03 PM ET
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06/21/22 04:03 PM ET
Not their travel and lodging costs I don't think. Maybe a courtesy car
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:08 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 04:08 PM ET
Right. Only the big boys are making anything off of endorsements...
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:10 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 04:10 PM ET
tickles me to see the vets out there looking like a NASCAR vehicle
-- tallahasseehokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 04:49 PM ET
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06/21/22 04:49 PM ET
It is quite the spectacle. I've had that same analogy in my head for a
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 05:36 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 05:36 PM ET
Worst for this IMO is Ricky Fowler. He's a NASCAR driver in golfer's attire
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 22, 2022 at 08:36 AM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/22/22 08:36 AM ET
What does that even mean **
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 12:33 PM ET
i just mean they aren't making political statements
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:04 PM ET
bigbadbird
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06/21/22 01:04 PM ET
People like to think they'd act differently ... but most wouldn't
-- Nova Hokie 95
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:24 PM ET
Nova Hokie 95
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06/21/22 01:24 PM ET
Fortunately there are many on the PGA tour with some moral compass who
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:58 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 01:58 PM ET
the guys that see more money for themselves on the PGA are staying
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:03 PM ET
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06/21/22 02:03 PM ET
This will play out in court, about whether or not the Tour can prevent them
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:10 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 02:10 PM ET
yeah- but golf is so fickle alot of these guys couldn't requalify
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:18 PM ET
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06/21/22 02:18 PM ET
I don't think guys that are staying are doing it because of a financial
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:09 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 02:09 PM ET
PGA Tour won't lose that case. **
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:41 PM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 02:41 PM ET
When you say "people", do you mean people like you and me? Or Tour players
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:50 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 01:50 PM ET
most of the tour players are not set for life
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:58 PM ET
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06/21/22 01:58 PM ET
Wealth is relative. A person making $15/hr thinks all of us are set for
-- RoswellGAHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:57 PM ET
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06/21/22 01:57 PM ET
BTW, everything is relative. Except maybe absolute zero.**
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:26 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 02:26 PM ET
I don't disagry with that at all. But Nova's point about most not acting
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:00 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 02:00 PM ET
Well, Chic-fil-a did drop the donations that angered many groups
-- BB Hokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 03:20 PM ET
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06/21/22 03:20 PM ET
Chick Fil A was boycotted? I guess I've been living under a rock. Or just
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 02:53 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 02:53 PM ET
Completely agree. Forget the comedian, but someone had a great bit about
-- RoswellGAHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:38 PM ET
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06/21/22 01:38 PM ET
It just money. And 54 holes w/guaranteed $. Not 72 and need to make cut.**
-- ColoVT82
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:21 PM ET
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06/21/22 01:21 PM ET
and they can get more this season for playing awful than
-- bigbadbird
Jun 21, 2022 at 01:23 PM ET
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06/21/22 01:23 PM ET
Garth Brooks? I figured he sold it decades ago.**
-- HokieNoVA
Jun 21, 2022 at 12:00 PM ET
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06/21/22 12:00 PM ET
Avery Brooks?**
-- FfxStationHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 12:37 PM ET
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06/21/22 12:37 PM ET
Following the NBA’s lead. And soccer’s
-- RoswellGAHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM ET
RoswellGAHokie
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06/21/22 11:21 AM ET
NBA owners aren't in it for a profit? **
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 11:42 AM ET
ModerateHokie
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06/21/22 11:42 AM ET
They went and got themselves in a big GD hurry.**
-- Strat Man
Jun 21, 2022 at 12:34 PM ET
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06/21/22 12:34 PM ET
I’m not following too closely but best I can tell
-- VT Pops
Jun 21, 2022 at 11:01 AM ET
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06/21/22 11:01 AM ET
None of them were competitive in the Open. A lot didn't even make the cut.**
-- Brown Water
Jun 21, 2022 at 12:00 PM ET
Brown Water
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06/21/22 12:00 PM ET
Nailed it. All of the gym bros are lining up**
-- ModerateHokie
Jun 21, 2022 at 11:40 AM ET
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06/21/22 11:40 AM ET