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The question is will the allure of guaranteed money start upstart golfers

moving from the PGA to LIV. The notable golfers of tomorrow aren't set for life, and have a hard time making the tour grind work. Are the next Jordan Spieth's and Justin Thomas' going to resist the lure of money? Maybe...
Posted: 06/21/2022 at 03:38 PM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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Brooks selling his soul too 👋 **
OXVT • 06/21/22 10:52 AM ET
they play for cash- they are golfers nothing else**
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 12:15 PM ET
In theory we fans have the "power" to make or break
Vippie1 • 06/21/22 04:01 PM ET
LIV doesn't care if you watch. They aren't trying to make money. **
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 04:13 PM ET
Yeah, it is a ploy for sports legitimization for them**
HOKIERIT • 06/21/22 08:24 PM ET
One slight distinction.......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 02:19 PM ET
Saudi's don't understand what motivates great players. Its the competition
Hokebury • 06/21/22 03:47 PM ET
Then what's everybody worried about? Just let it play out. **
vthokieq • 06/21/22 04:22 PM ET
Same thing most college football fans are worried about with NIL.
Brown Water • 06/21/22 04:53 PM ET
Correction...it's not going to ruin the sport...just the governing body(s).
vthokieq • 06/21/22 05:06 PM ET
B/c in effect the Saudis are buying people and paying them not to play.
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 04:26 PM ET
You mean paying them not to play where you want them to play.
vthokieq • 06/21/22 04:57 PM ET
That ignores reality. LIV is paying these guys so much that they don't have
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 05:17 PM ET
Well which is it?
vthokieq • 06/21/22 06:01 PM ET
It's both. And the "monopoly" argument does not apply here. This is not one
ModerateHokie • 06/22/22 08:32 AM ET
Couldn't it be both?.....
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 09:55 PM ET
Correct. Both. **
ModerateHokie • 06/22/22 08:31 AM ET
Most of the other big tours are PGA affiliated are they not?
vthokieq • 06/21/22 10:09 PM ET
that's because you are not a golfer. For most golfers,
ModerateHokie • 06/22/22 08:34 AM ET
I’m not? Interesting.
vthokieq • 06/22/22 08:02 PM ET
I think most......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 10:25 PM ET
Plus if they don't see decent ROI, they'll move on to the next shiny thing.
Brown Water • 06/21/22 03:57 PM ET
Guessing it won't be ROI that causes the issue
RTFC • 06/21/22 05:59 PM ET
Run a ramshackle driving range in West Texas**
HokieKip • 06/21/22 04:03 PM ET
Become bitcoin entrepreneurs **
Hokebury • 06/21/22 04:00 PM ET
Well, that's how the PGA can potentially combat this
Nova Hokie 95 • 06/21/22 02:36 PM ET
They already are.......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 02:47 PM ET
And Paulina says...
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 03:49 PM ET
Do they like the bikini pics on Instagram too?**
RoswellGAHokie • 06/21/22 04:06 PM ET
The question is will the allure of guaranteed money start upstart golfers ◄
MCL3 Hokie • 06/21/22 03:38 PM ET
well some are already going - Petit - piot etc..
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 03:53 PM ET
PGA Tour needs to start covering basic expenses of participants...
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 03:50 PM ET
Their sponsors typically cover those costs**
vt90 • 06/21/22 04:03 PM ET
Not their travel and lodging costs I don't think. Maybe a courtesy car
Brown Water • 06/21/22 04:08 PM ET
Right. Only the big boys are making anything off of endorsements...
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 04:10 PM ET
Depends on the guy......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 10:04 PM ET
tickles me to see the vets out there looking like a NASCAR vehicle
tallahasseehokie • 06/21/22 04:49 PM ET
It is quite the spectacle. I've had that same analogy in my head for a
Brown Water • 06/21/22 05:36 PM ET
Worst for this IMO is Ricky Fowler. He's a NASCAR driver in golfer's attire
ModerateHokie • 06/22/22 08:36 AM ET
What does that even mean **
Brown Water • 06/21/22 12:33 PM ET
i just mean they aren't making political statements
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 01:04 PM ET
People like to think they'd act differently ... but most wouldn't
Nova Hokie 95 • 06/21/22 01:24 PM ET
Fortunately there are many on the PGA tour with some moral compass who
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 01:58 PM ET
the guys that see more money for themselves on the PGA are staying
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 02:03 PM ET
Guaranteed Money......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 06:40 PM ET
This will play out in court, about whether or not the Tour can prevent them
Brown Water • 06/21/22 02:10 PM ET
Brilliant
VT Pops • 06/21/22 02:42 PM ET
yeah- but golf is so fickle alot of these guys couldn't requalify
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 02:18 PM ET
I don't think guys that are staying are doing it because of a financial
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 02:09 PM ET
I think some are
Nova Hokie 95 • 06/21/22 02:32 PM ET
PGA Tour won't lose that case. **
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 02:41 PM ET
When you say "people", do you mean people like you and me? Or Tour players
Brown Water • 06/21/22 01:50 PM ET
I think......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 02:37 PM ET
most of the tour players are not set for life
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 01:58 PM ET
Wealth is relative. A person making $15/hr thinks all of us are set for
RoswellGAHokie • 06/21/22 01:57 PM ET
BTW, everything is relative. Except maybe absolute zero.**
Brown Water • 06/21/22 02:26 PM ET
I don't disagry with that at all. But Nova's point about most not acting
Brown Water • 06/21/22 02:00 PM ET
A sample point
Nova Hokie 95 • 06/21/22 02:35 PM ET
Well, Chic-fil-a did drop the donations that angered many groups
BB Hokie • 06/21/22 03:20 PM ET
Chick Fil A was boycotted? I guess I've been living under a rock. Or just
Brown Water • 06/21/22 02:53 PM ET
Completely agree. Forget the comedian, but someone had a great bit about
RoswellGAHokie • 06/21/22 01:38 PM ET
It just money. And 54 holes w/guaranteed $. Not 72 and need to make cut.**
ColoVT82 • 06/21/22 01:21 PM ET
and they can get more this season for playing awful than
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 01:23 PM ET
Garth Brooks? I figured he sold it decades ago.**
HokieNoVA • 06/21/22 12:00 PM ET
Kenny Brooks?**
Tank • 06/21/22 02:25 PM ET
Brooks shoes **
bigbadbird • 06/21/22 02:03 PM ET
Foster Brooks**
coshokie • 06/21/22 01:41 PM ET
Avery Brooks?**
FfxStationHokie • 06/21/22 12:37 PM ET
He did, on live TV.
MP4VT2004 • 06/21/22 12:08 PM ET
Following the NBA’s lead. And soccer’s
RoswellGAHokie • 06/21/22 11:21 AM ET
Atta boy!**
AbsolutVT03 • 06/22/22 04:53 PM ET
You probably need......
2hhoop3 • 06/21/22 02:13 PM ET
NBA owners aren't in it for a profit? **
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 11:42 AM ET
So has Red**
HokieDan95 • 06/21/22 11:13 AM ET
They went and got themselves in a big GD hurry.**
Strat Man • 06/21/22 12:34 PM ET
I’m not following too closely but best I can tell
VT Pops • 06/21/22 11:01 AM ET
None of them were competitive in the Open. A lot didn't even make the cut.**
Brown Water • 06/21/22 12:00 PM ET
Nailed it. All of the gym bros are lining up**
ModerateHokie • 06/21/22 11:40 AM ET