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MP4VT2004
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MP4VT2004

If the 87k added IRS agents actually result in increased net revenue...

...they will be the first government employees to ever produce more than they consume. TIC
Posted: 07/15/2024 at 03:03 PM ET
(In response to this post by vtlee)

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I have a colleague who was a former Pittsburgh cop. One of his duties was
RoswellGAHokie • 07/15/24 11:31 AM ET
Current SS isn't this stupid or incompetent. Kind of like leaving $60 bill
HokiesBill48 • 07/15/24 07:06 PM ET
Bennie Thompson may have some answers?**
Vtskier1 • 07/15/24 06:23 PM ET
Thought it would be funny...You are a moron and deserved to be fired. You->
HOKIERIT • 07/15/24 06:48 PM ET
It amazes me who gets put into positions to make real decisions, but have
Vtskier1 • 07/15/24 07:00 PM ET
I would think a security body would be on every roof in sight.**
MikeVT85 • 07/15/24 03:04 PM ET
In every assassination movie, they kill the agent on the roof first
Vienna_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:40 PM ET
Given how much heat law enforcement has taken in the past decade. Cops
Hoakie82 • 07/15/24 01:50 PM ET
An order from above? - "the buck stops [t]here." **
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 05:00 PM ET
And climb and unguarded access ladder up the back exterior
PhotoHokieNC • 07/15/24 01:43 PM ET
A No-brainer!!!**
HOKIERIT • 07/15/24 06:49 PM ET
Who leaves an unlocked access ladder to a roof? That is a lawsuit waiting
jdkhokie • 07/15/24 02:12 PM ET
There have been clues that the Secret Service isn't what it used to be
HokieNoVA • 07/15/24 01:09 PM ET
Agents
Techdady • 07/15/24 02:57 PM ET
And one of them was promoted to the head of the SS...lol**
EDGEMAN • 07/15/24 01:42 PM ET
DEI baby....long as we have DEI. That was stated goal of the new SS chief **
HOKIERIT • 07/15/24 06:52 PM ET
The "SS" is so ironic **
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 02:30 PM ET
I would imagine the Secret Service is spread pretty thin right now
vtlee • 07/15/24 12:59 PM ET
I don't think they protect all (or even most) candidates. STILL, no excuse!**
HOKIERIT • 07/15/24 06:53 PM ET
Fire 86,000 IRS agents**
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 02:02 PM ET
That's how we pay for Secret Service**
vtlee • 07/15/24 02:53 PM ET
If the 87k added IRS agents actually result in increased net revenue... ◄
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 03:03 PM ET
Don't hold your breath...We'd hate to lose you!**
HOKIERIT • 07/15/24 06:53 PM ET
Well…for one…they haven’t actually added 87k agents.
vthokieq • 07/15/24 04:09 PM ET
And I never said they have. But the funding is approved.
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 04:20 PM ET
This isn’t even playing devils advocate.
vthokieq • 07/15/24 04:23 PM ET
Flat tax! :) I kid..I kid, but not really.**
Vtskier1 • 07/15/24 06:26 PM ET
Hand raised. Factor in the standard deduction up front.**
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 06:31 PM ET
OK, but to be fair, I never refuted anything you said...
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 04:26 PM ET
Lighten up Francis.
vthokieq • 07/15/24 04:28 PM ET
I started it. It was a hyperbolic jab at government efficiency.
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 05:03 PM ET
If we can't be hyperbolic on the lounge, where can we be?!?! TIC**
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 06:14 PM ET
In geometry?**
reconhokie • 07/15/24 10:12 PM ET
Maybe the administration needed to target (🤐) SS to a degree over IRS.
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 06:29 PM ET
Ha, I was trying to rib you...I'm not upset. ✌**
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 04:33 PM ET
My OP. I'll take the heat for hyperbole. **
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 05:51 PM ET
$4 trillion in 2023 tax revenue divided by around 90k total employees**
vtlee • 07/15/24 03:38 PM ET
But how much have the added employees increased the bottom line?**
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 03:50 PM ET
It still wouldn't be enough to cancel out what they bring in
vtlee • 07/15/24 04:04 PM ET
They haven't added them all yet. But the funding is approved.
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 04:16 PM ET
If they increase revenue by just 1% we're talking an additional $40 billion
vtlee • 07/15/24 04:28 PM ET
1% cheating doesn’t necessarily equal 1% increase in revenue. **
vthokieq • 07/15/24 04:31 PM ET
It has! Over $1 billion so far this year. **
localhokiekid • 07/15/24 03:30 PM ET
Net revenue increased by 1 billion as a direct result of the added agents?
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 03:51 PM ET
Of course, like reducing the RATE of growth is considered a cut**
Vienna_Hokie • 07/15/24 04:14 PM ET
Yes. New agents targeted unpaid taxes, collected 1 billion as direct result**
localhokiekid • 07/15/24 04:14 PM ET
Can you share a link to that data? Not saying you are making it up...
MP4VT2004 • 07/15/24 04:25 PM ET
Sure. There's an official IRS statement from July 11th
localhokiekid • 07/15/24 04:34 PM ET
"IRS statement" - excuse me if I'm skeptical **
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 05:54 PM ET
you realize 87k agents cost around $17bil a year to employ
Vienna_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:38 PM ET
87K was a 10 year goal, only 2-3K hired so far**
localhokiekid • 07/15/24 04:11 PM ET
They’ve hired more than that.
vthokieq • 07/15/24 04:21 PM ET
I suppose the info I saw about that is probably outdated then**
localhokiekid • 07/15/24 04:28 PM ET
I think a lot of those agents were hired to go after the PPP loan frauds.
132863Hokie • 07/15/24 04:07 PM ET
Many areas of the federal government are spread thin now
Zanderhokie • 07/15/24 01:18 PM ET
I’ve done operational advance work (strip maps for evac to local first res
reconhokie • 07/15/24 12:20 PM ET
Because it wasn't a failure... we will know, one day**
WestyHokie • 07/15/24 04:01 PM ET
Uhhhh**
hokiepro • 07/15/24 09:08 PM ET
What? Seriously?**
vthokieq • 07/15/24 06:53 PM ET
It was an absolute failure, their protectee got shot, that's a failure
Vienna_Hokie • 07/15/24 04:20 PM ET
This is the equivalent of not screening everyone in the Center field
hokiepro • 07/15/24 03:10 PM ET
Yeah.Has to be that or GROSS incompetence & I don't think it was on purpose**
HOKIERIT • 07/15/24 06:59 PM ET
Agreed. This should never have been even remotely possible
Zanderhokie • 07/15/24 01:17 PM ET
and how did the kid know it would be open?**
Vienna_Hokie • 07/15/24 03:16 PM ET
Kinda fishy, eh?**
ColoVT82 • 07/15/24 05:30 PM ET
Definitely hard to explain how an unsecured point and a loner loser connect**
Vienna_Hokie • 07/15/24 05:41 PM ET
Zero clue, but that's one of many questions they should be asking**
Zanderhokie • 07/15/24 03:19 PM ET
Look no further than hiring and training standards **
CrystalCoveHokie • 07/15/24 12:11 PM ET
…dispatched with extreme prejudice**
chumley • 07/15/24 12:08 PM ET
...late**
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 02:03 PM ET
Gun placed earlier? Even more egregious if no last minute scan. **
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 11:33 AM ET
The basic information on this guy seems like it is taking to long to come
jdkhokie • 07/15/24 02:09 PM ET
TBD**
TomTurkey • 07/15/24 02:27 PM ET