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society has a vested interest in a well-educated population

access to student loans is supposed to encourage (or at least enable education for those who want to pursue it) the problem is that the system isn't set up with enough checks & balances your thoughts about interest rates based on major or academic performance are one avenue to implement some balances. another might be a cap on per-student overhead expenses at colleges eligible for participating in the federal loan programs
Posted: 08/25/2022 at 12:04 PM ET
(In response to this post by hokiehunter07)

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Am I missing something on this 10k loan forgiveness?
coshokie 08/25/22 09:38 AM ET
I'd rather have no debt in your position than be in debt
ElbertoHokie 08/26/22 09:19 AM ET
I'm missing the responsible vs irresponsible categorization. Is everyone
UTPr0sim 08/25/22 01:31 PM ET
Bingo. **
ElbertoHokie 08/26/22 09:09 AM ET
It's real simple...
Beerman 08/25/22 02:55 PM ET
I wasn't categorizing anyone as responsible or irresponsible
coshokie 08/25/22 02:24 PM ET
"Everyone"? No. Like most things that get turned to black and white...
vthokieq 08/25/22 01:39 PM ET
On one hand I feel that students are lied to by their parents/teachers
HokieNoVA 08/25/22 11:05 AM ET
There was a simple mantra "college grads make more lifetime than HS grads"
`lag 08/25/22 02:37 PM ET
Not going to college was never an option at home.
GSOHokie01 08/25/22 12:48 PM ET
Concur on being sold a lie.
Tafkam Hokie 08/25/22 11:20 AM ET
Both are true.
vthokieq 08/25/22 11:16 AM ET
I am also
VTUD 08/25/22 11:01 AM ET
They should have just frozen interest
WestyHokie 08/25/22 10:41 AM ET
I would have been fine with this because the "money" that the govt
ElbertoHokie 08/25/22 01:24 PM ET
how does it penalize responsible people?
ShockWaveVT 08/25/22 11:22 AM ET
Not even a band aid. The wound is still bleeding
Beerman 08/25/22 01:58 PM ET
Yep and none of this even addresses the private student loans people get
Hokie1744 08/25/22 02:11 PM ET
Let me give you an example ...
WestyHokie 08/25/22 01:23 PM ET
one follow-up question
ShockWaveVT 08/25/22 09:29 PM ET
PPP loan forgiveness came with three conditions
WestyHokie 08/26/22 07:59 AM ET
Yep. I keep laughing at all of the talking heads, etc that are trying to
vt90 08/25/22 02:36 PM ET
It penalizes ...
vt90 08/25/22 12:36 PM ET
The debt doesn't go away it just gets transferred. It's not magic...
Hokiehouse7 08/25/22 11:51 AM ET
Cosign this ^^
hokiegoatzz 08/25/22 10:53 AM ET
well the problem is that in the early 90's you could go to school for less
bigbadbird 08/25/22 10:35 AM ET
No doubt. My 2 complaints are that it didn't go through Congress
Hokiehouse7 08/25/22 10:03 AM ET
the reason it costs so much to go to college, is loans
Vienna_Hokie 08/25/22 11:56 AM ET
This is a more reasoned response. Fixing the system should be job 1. I know
RhinoVT 08/25/22 10:10 AM ET
but the extreme cost of schooling is caused by the availability of loans**
Vienna_Hokie 08/25/22 03:39 PM ET
This kind of fits my quip about student loans being for the schools...
`lag 08/25/22 10:36 AM ET
right it created a little empire for the sweatervests
bigbadbird 08/25/22 10:48 AM ET
Add this type of funding plus the grant money & boom... you get a lot of
Vtskier1 08/25/22 11:31 AM ET
academia went from a vow of poverty to a lucrative career **
bigbadbird 08/25/22 11:33 AM ET
It's a simple manipulation of supply and demand
hokiehunter07 08/25/22 10:25 AM ET
I'd argue that each degree should cost more / less based on the value of
ME Hokie 07 08/25/22 12:54 PM ET
You want to encourage good degrees and discourage mostly worthless ones...
hokiehunter07 08/25/22 04:58 PM ET
society has a vested interest in a well-educated population
ShockWaveVT 08/25/22 12:04 PM ET
The problem is what is considered education.
vthokieq 08/25/22 01:07 PM ET
Freshman roommate felt college was a "life experience". Parents pulled him
pburg_hokie 08/25/22 11:02 AM ET
the loan office is filled with people that have never worked outside of
bigbadbird 08/25/22 11:23 AM ET
One reform idea: Strictly scrutinize degree requirements for jobs.
RoswellGAHokie 08/25/22 10:57 AM ET
I do think tying the loans available to the degree makes some sense
Tafkam Hokie 08/25/22 11:13 AM ET
there are not many schools where you could go for 16 a year **
bigbadbird 08/25/22 10:36 AM ET
$16K gets you about a semester at VT once you add up all the fees.**
Tafkam Hokie 08/25/22 11:22 AM ET
in state **
bigbadbird 08/25/22 11:24 AM ET
Yeah...it was more than $16K total unless he got other money (scholarships)**
vthokieq 08/25/22 10:45 AM ET
Wait, wait. A real plan instead of just b**ching??? You do NOT belong on
RhinoVT 08/25/22 10:32 AM ET
It's $10k off of interest too
hoosnowahokie 08/25/22 10:02 AM ET
Dependent undergrad students can only borrow a small amount each year.
RoswellGAHokie 08/25/22 10:01 AM ET
I always wonder how these amounts got so high unless you go to
Hokiehouse7 08/25/22 10:08 AM ET
It’s a blatant vote bribe, should eventually get struck down by SCOTUS.
B777Fr8Dog 08/25/22 09:53 AM ET
That court case should last about 15 seconds ...
vt90 08/25/22 10:04 AM ET
Supreme Court will decide and likely overturn
TabbHokie 08/25/22 01:27 PM ET