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Tafkam Hokie
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This is a very multi-faceted problem

It started with with Greatest and Boomer generations beating into their kid's heads that a college education was the golden ticket of life. There was a time when a college degree...any college degree...was an enormous asset in your employment future. And that's what they taught their kids. So Gen X (and later generations) started doing whatever they could to go to college. Then the government hopped on board and tried to make it easier to pay for college by subsidizing student loans. Then colleges made getting into college easier because there was a lot of money to be made in admitting more students. The combination of the government giving away money, colleges trying to gather up as much of it as they could, and students feeling like they were spending someone else's money instead of their own led to zero consumer price pressure on higher education, and thus runaway tuition prices. Meanwhile, no one bothered to notice that a whole lot more people were getting college educations than in years past, so being educated isn't nearly the differentiator it once was. Sure, a STEM or business or law or medical degree is still a pretty solid meal-ticket in life, but degrees in social sciences and the arts just don't have tremendous value in business. So now we have a couple generations of people who thought a degree in anything was a can't-miss investment in their future, and they were willing to borrow a silly amount of money to do it. And while they were doing that, the value of many degrees was depreciating very quickly in the marketplace. And they are saddled with crippling debt and a service job that doesn't pay all that well. And now here we are in a world where some are wising up to the idea that college is too expensive and learning a skilled trade is more lucrative than getting a degree outside of STEM/business/law/medicine.
Posted: 09/24/2024 at 12:31 PM ET
(In response to this post by EDGEMAN)

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Gen Z ditching 4-year colleges for trade schools - Wall Street Journal
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 11:50 AM ET
My son was seriously considering Apprentice School for a while...
JoesterVT 09/24/24 06:37 PM ET
…yeah, but most of the jobs aren’t work from home**
chumley 09/24/24 06:00 PM ET
In related news, the US Trade School Association has advised their members
Late 80s Hokie 09/24/24 04:03 PM ET
I've always been pro college, but the math now doesn't work for many
WestyHokie 09/24/24 03:30 PM ET
We will ALWAYS need plumbers and electricians.
Hokie CPA 09/24/24 01:25 PM ET
Neighbor's kid did two years of community college and hated it
Happy Dog 09/24/24 04:55 PM ET
Guarantee any machinist coming out of a trade school has a job waiting...
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 03:48 PM ET
Yup. And carpenters, farmers, etc. **
ColoVT82 09/24/24 02:40 PM ET
My friend needed an electrician for a small job at his house. When he
MCL3 Hokie 09/24/24 02:33 PM ET
I do probably 95% of all the work around the house myself, in no small part
Tafkam Hokie 09/24/24 03:46 PM ET
Judge Smails^^**
HokieDan95 09/24/24 01:27 PM ET
great news!!!**
radhokie1 09/24/24 01:11 PM ET
Good. Most people will benefit from that greatly.**
Brewing_Hokie 09/24/24 01:08 PM ET
I graduated with a degree from Radford... Then had no idea what I was going
HokieGator 09/24/24 12:42 PM ET
Economically it makes a lot of sense but coming from a small town I needed
HokieDan95 09/24/24 12:07 PM ET
Mike Rowe effect 👍🏻**
B777Fr8Dog 09/24/24 11:59 AM ET
he's been saying it forever. **
reestuart 09/24/24 03:43 PM ET
Too many college degrees are completely worthless.
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 12:05 PM ET
Agreed. And, I think colleges should be on the hook if they take $ and....
RUHokie 09/24/24 04:19 PM ET
IMHO We need more people with college degrees and more people in the trades
Hokie Chris 09/24/24 01:57 PM ET
Here, here!
MAHokie69 09/24/24 09:17 PM ET
Or short of deleting them, tie federal loan availability to the earning
RoswellGAHokie 09/24/24 12:58 PM ET
Any "Studies" degree and the associated department should be eliminated
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 03:52 PM ET
Agry, at least in principle.
Tafkam Hokie 09/24/24 03:41 PM ET
Maybe the amount you can borrow for a degree
RTFC 09/24/24 07:31 PM ET
This is a very multi-faceted problem
Tafkam Hokie 09/24/24 12:31 PM ET
We weren't just told college was an asset, they said it was essential
HokieNoVA 09/24/24 01:32 PM ET
To add, all those same older generations decided that Personal Finance
hoosnowahokie 09/24/24 12:35 PM ET
If you can't figure out debt/borrowing
RTFC 09/24/24 02:51 PM ET
So can you explain why all of those college educated people in congress...
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 03:43 PM ET
Pretty simple. No matter how educated you are, spending someone else's
Tafkam Hokie 09/24/24 03:51 PM ET
Have a great suggestion: if congress votes to spend excessively, they...
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 04:09 PM ET
While you're at it, add this to your day as king. Tax the hell out of any
UEMcGill 09/24/24 12:16 PM ET
How about any school with a massive foundation that asks for federal...
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 03:45 PM ET
College debt should become partially dischargeable in bankruptcy
One4VT 09/24/24 12:14 PM ET
Paywall not available for us blue collar folks.**
PhotoHokieNC 09/24/24 11:54 AM ET
You can't access YouTube?**
EDGEMAN 09/24/24 11:56 AM ET