How does alternate merging add uncertainty?
You have your logic completely backwards in high-traffic situations. Alternate merging is the certainty -- everyone knows when to merge and how. Otherwise, there are people merging at 100 different locations, no one in the other lane truly knows when/if a car is going to merge in, and it slows things considerably more. Not only do the cars in the merge-into lane slow/stop to allow the merge, but the cars in the merge-from lane are now backed up behind the car trying to merge early and that backs everyone else up even further.
What most people, IMHO, don't take into consideration is that it's a two-factor decision. First question -- is traffic moving smoothly? If it is, then yes, waiting until the end is a jerk move. Get over in the flow of traffic before the lane ends. But if traffic is stopped, then the best way through -- as proven by multiple studies -- is to use all available space (e.g., the lane that's ending until it ends) and then merge every other car. If that is done -- and there aren't jerks who either won't let a car in, or jerks who try to merge in as a second car from the merge lane -- then it works smoothly and reduces the backup for everyone.
** Edited by Nova Hokie 95 at 7/20/2024, 1:14:33 PM
Thread Replies (37)
As an assist to that ...**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:15 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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07/20/24 12:15 PM ET
... and furthermore ...**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:23 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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07/20/24 12:23 PM ET
Total waste of time! Still only x number of cars through the choke point.
-- DonHo-kieHi
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:56 AM ET
DonHo-kieHi
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07/20/24 11:56 AM ET
Would be awesome If people would continue through at a constant pace in
-- 89HOKIE
Jul 20, 2024 at 05:22 PM ET
89HOKIE
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07/20/24 05:22 PM ET
Yep, thought about mentioning rubbernecking**
-- DonHo-kieHi
Jul 20, 2024 at 05:51 PM ET
DonHo-kieHi
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07/20/24 05:51 PM ET
How does alternate merging add uncertainty?
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-- Nova Hokie 95
Jul 20, 2024 at 01:11 PM ET
Nova Hokie 95
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07/20/24 01:11 PM ET
you are not factoring in all the stop, starts and delays spread out
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:57 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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07/20/24 12:57 PM ET
Most people advocating for zipper-merge just want to be able to cut to the
-- HokieNoVA
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM ET
HokieNoVA
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07/20/24 12:19 PM ET
If everyone is zipper merging properly, there is no line to cut
-- Beerman
Jul 20, 2024 at 04:13 PM ET
Beerman
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07/20/24 04:13 PM ET
Drivers should begin merging as soon as they see the sign**
-- TomTurkey
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:15 PM ET
TomTurkey
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07/20/24 12:15 PM ET
As a corollary to this the traffic to the bridge to get off of Topsul Isle
-- DonHo-kieHi
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:44 PM ET
DonHo-kieHi
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07/20/24 12:44 PM ET
^^^Knows what drivers are thinking **
-- TomTurkey
Jul 20, 2024 at 01:16 PM ET
TomTurkey
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07/20/24 01:16 PM ET
Hey, Doc! How's the scourge? Has it left you yet?**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:06 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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07/20/24 12:06 PM ET
Yep! Negative test Wed. Repeated when I left for SML on Friday. Didn’t want
-- DonHo-kieHi
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:36 PM ET
DonHo-kieHi
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07/20/24 12:36 PM ET
Whew! Congrats!! The miracle of healing two-ball golf, no?**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:40 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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07/20/24 12:40 PM ET
I attribute the bourbon and scotch medication.**
-- DonHo-kieHi
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:46 PM ET
DonHo-kieHi
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07/20/24 12:46 PM ET
Maybe we should try the Swiss way of road repairs; see link.**
-- 132863Hokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 10:58 AM ET
132863Hokie
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07/20/24 10:58 AM ET
That's brilliant...meaning it will never happen here.**
-- MP4VT2004
Jul 20, 2024 at 03:05 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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07/20/24 03:05 PM ET
Speaking of traffic. Kudos to VDOT for the chastising of left lane loafers.
-- HokieGator
Jul 20, 2024 at 10:43 AM ET
HokieGator
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07/20/24 10:43 AM ET
Those signs absolutely don't help
-- Happy Dog
Jul 21, 2024 at 07:13 AM ET
Happy Dog
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07/21/24 07:13 AM ET
Saw them at the Rt. 8/I-81 intersection yesterday.**
-- Nortazhokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 03:06 PM ET
Nortazhokie
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07/20/24 03:06 PM ET
worse are center lane loafers IMO
-- Vienna_Hokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 01:00 PM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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07/20/24 01:00 PM ET
And stop riding my ass in the left lane. I can’t go any faster than the car
-- Femoyer Hokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:12 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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07/20/24 11:12 AM ET
When someone rides my ass I just slow down….
-- BusLoadaBozos
Jul 20, 2024 at 02:18 PM ET
BusLoadaBozos
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07/20/24 02:18 PM ET
I don't get angry often but driving down 64 last week tractor trailer was
-- Hurley09
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:46 PM ET
Hurley09
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07/20/24 12:46 PM ET
That's when you need a CB radio.**
-- MP4VT2004
Jul 20, 2024 at 03:06 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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07/20/24 03:06 PM ET
Funny how my car will gradually slow 15 mph when that happens.**
-- TomTurkey
Jul 20, 2024 at 02:40 PM ET
TomTurkey
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07/20/24 02:40 PM ET
bumper sticker " tailgate much?? or just when you are behind somebody ?🙄**
-- astrohokie
Jul 20, 2024 at 12:08 PM ET
astrohokie
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07/20/24 12:08 PM ET
Watched a dude absolutely losing it on I81 yesterday. Traffic was bad and
-- HokieGator
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:24 AM ET
HokieGator
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07/20/24 11:24 AM ET
Tell me! Right lanes, also.**
-- TomTurkey
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:17 AM ET
TomTurkey
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07/20/24 11:17 AM ET
It works just fine when you have an orderly, every other lane type of merge
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 20, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/20/24 10:38 AM ET
Yeah there's no way that works in modern American society.
-- MP4VT2004
Jul 20, 2024 at 10:43 AM ET
MP4VT2004
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07/20/24 10:43 AM ET
Since we left the madness in the CLT, over here, across the river
-- PhotoHokieNC
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:17 AM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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07/20/24 11:17 AM ET
Glad to hear there are pockets of decency still out there!**
-- MP4VT2004
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:20 AM ET
MP4VT2004
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07/20/24 11:20 AM ET
When they use the exit/entrance merge lane to pass you, you are correct.
-- TomTurkey
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:03 AM ET
TomTurkey
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07/20/24 11:03 AM ET