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How does alternate merging add uncertainty?

You have your logic completely backwards in high-traffic situations. Alternate merging is the certainty -- everyone knows when to merge and how. Otherwise, there are people merging at 100 different locations, no one in the other lane truly knows when/if a car is going to merge in, and it slows things considerably more. Not only do the cars in the merge-into lane slow/stop to allow the merge, but the cars in the merge-from lane are now backed up behind the car trying to merge early and that backs everyone else up even further. What most people, IMHO, don't take into consideration is that it's a two-factor decision. First question -- is traffic moving smoothly? If it is, then yes, waiting until the end is a jerk move. Get over in the flow of traffic before the lane ends. But if traffic is stopped, then the best way through -- as proven by multiple studies -- is to use all available space (e.g., the lane that's ending until it ends) and then merge every other car. If that is done -- and there aren't jerks who either won't let a car in, or jerks who try to merge in as a second car from the merge lane -- then it works smoothly and reduces the backup for everyone. ** Edited by Nova Hokie 95 at 7/20/2024, 1:14:33 PM
Posted: 07/20/2024 at 01:11 PM ET
(In response to this post by DonHo-kieHi)

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Let the games begin...
TomTurkey 07/20/24 10:25 AM ET
As an assist to that ...**
PhotoHokieNC 07/20/24 12:15 PM ET
... and furthermore ...**
PhotoHokieNC 07/20/24 12:23 PM ET
Total waste of time! Still only x number of cars through the choke point.
DonHo-kieHi 07/20/24 11:56 AM ET
Would be awesome If people would continue through at a constant pace in
89HOKIE 07/20/24 05:22 PM ET
Yep, thought about mentioning rubbernecking**
DonHo-kieHi 07/20/24 05:51 PM ET
How does alternate merging add uncertainty?
Nova Hokie 95 07/20/24 01:11 PM ET
you are not factoring in all the stop, starts and delays spread out
Vienna_Hokie 07/20/24 12:57 PM ET
Most people advocating for zipper-merge just want to be able to cut to the
HokieNoVA 07/20/24 12:19 PM ET
If everyone is zipper merging properly, there is no line to cut
Beerman 07/20/24 04:13 PM ET
Drivers should begin merging as soon as they see the sign**
TomTurkey 07/20/24 12:15 PM ET
As a corollary to this the traffic to the bridge to get off of Topsul Isle
DonHo-kieHi 07/20/24 12:44 PM ET
^^^Knows what drivers are thinking **
TomTurkey 07/20/24 01:16 PM ET
Hey, Doc! How's the scourge? Has it left you yet?**
PhotoHokieNC 07/20/24 12:06 PM ET
Yep! Negative test Wed. Repeated when I left for SML on Friday. Didn’t want
DonHo-kieHi 07/20/24 12:36 PM ET
Whew! Congrats!! The miracle of healing two-ball golf, no?**
PhotoHokieNC 07/20/24 12:40 PM ET
I attribute the bourbon and scotch medication.**
DonHo-kieHi 07/20/24 12:46 PM ET
Maybe we should try the Swiss way of road repairs; see link.**
132863Hokie 07/20/24 10:58 AM ET
Hey- Las Vegas!**
reconhokie 07/20/24 03:52 PM ET
That's brilliant...meaning it will never happen here.**
MP4VT2004 07/20/24 03:05 PM ET
Farr too logical**
astrohokie 07/20/24 12:12 PM ET
Speaking of traffic. Kudos to VDOT for the chastising of left lane loafers.
HokieGator 07/20/24 10:43 AM ET
Those signs absolutely don't help
Happy Dog 07/21/24 07:13 AM ET
Saw them at the Rt. 8/I-81 intersection yesterday.**
Nortazhokie 07/20/24 03:06 PM ET
worse are center lane loafers IMO
Vienna_Hokie 07/20/24 01:00 PM ET
And stop riding my ass in the left lane. I can’t go any faster than the car
Femoyer Hokie 07/20/24 11:12 AM ET
When someone rides my ass I just slow down….
BusLoadaBozos 07/20/24 02:18 PM ET
I don't get angry often but driving down 64 last week tractor trailer was
Hurley09 07/20/24 12:46 PM ET
That's when you need a CB radio.**
MP4VT2004 07/20/24 03:06 PM ET
Funny how my car will gradually slow 15 mph when that happens.**
TomTurkey 07/20/24 02:40 PM ET
bumper sticker " tailgate much?? or just when you are behind somebody ?🙄**
astrohokie 07/20/24 12:08 PM ET
Watched a dude absolutely losing it on I81 yesterday. Traffic was bad and
HokieGator 07/20/24 11:24 AM ET
Tell me! Right lanes, also.**
TomTurkey 07/20/24 11:17 AM ET
It works just fine when you have an orderly, every other lane type of merge
EDGEMAN 07/20/24 10:38 AM ET
Yeah there's no way that works in modern American society.
MP4VT2004 07/20/24 10:43 AM ET
Since we left the madness in the CLT, over here, across the river
PhotoHokieNC 07/20/24 11:17 AM ET
Glad to hear there are pockets of decency still out there!**
MP4VT2004 07/20/24 11:20 AM ET
When they use the exit/entrance merge lane to pass you, you are correct.
TomTurkey 07/20/24 11:03 AM ET