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pfishe
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20 yrs ago, the avg HS teacher in our district made $88k. The highest made

$95k. This strikes me as little to no motivation to do your job well as the financial incentives do not vary. The testing results are good, but it seems likely the demographics are pretty helpful. We ended up sending our kid to private. On his own, he found a school that offered an International Baccalaureate (IB). We got very lucky with him, and my wife was all over his education from the jump. His HS cost us quite a bit, but he did well and the teachers were very good. Everyone, including the parents really cared about the education. This school kicks people out even a few weeks prior to graduation. On the other hand, it was a pretty open campaign headquarters for one party during elections. A friend of ours got into their administration and found almost zero motivation amongst her peers. After being coached to slow down her pace, she left. That part aside, it's a great academic environment. The only other controversy is if your kid had ambitious college plans, they really didn't encourage it. They might be right, but they didn't think kids should be obsessed with getting into the most prestigious schools. Some parents took issue with that.
Posted: 01/19/2023 at 11:04 AM ET
(In response to this post by CrystalCoveHokie)

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Teacher Rant follows. (Sorry. Need to blow off steam)
Riverguy • 01/19/23 08:32 AM ET
Will they be willing to play collegiate basketball with broken hands?**
TomTurkey • 01/19/23 02:17 PM ET
LOL. Not in that class, but in
Riverguy • 01/20/23 07:23 AM ET
Best teacher I ever had was Herb West for Freshman English. Some of you
Brown Water • 01/19/23 01:33 PM ET
My wife teaches
HOKIEVET • 01/19/23 12:51 PM ET
My retired teacher perspective…
Newt • 01/19/23 12:23 PM ET
I wish a few more teachers grasped the homework concept
Tafkam Hokie • 01/19/23 04:33 PM ET
My best and worse teachers were math teachers during my school years. My
Hokebury • 01/19/23 12:44 PM ET
Almost identical for me. My Algebra I teacher was almost indescribably
Tafkam Hokie • 01/19/23 04:39 PM ET
My English instruction in high school was excellent. Freshman English...
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 12:57 PM ET
My epiphany on a subject came in History. The first good history teacher
Tafkam Hokie • 01/19/23 04:44 PM ET
My son has the opposite problem, lazy teachers, non-challenging material…
CrystalCoveHokie • 01/19/23 10:35 AM ET
$100-200k???
Newt • 01/19/23 11:54 AM ET
Look at where he lives and the price of real estate in the area first**
hoosnowahokie • 01/19/23 12:56 PM ET
If you are interested……
CrystalCoveHokie • 01/19/23 12:21 PM ET
that's a lot more than our teachers make**
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/23 02:02 PM ET
Not interested. Happily retired.
Newt • 01/19/23 12:35 PM ET
I'll take either salary thanks**
typed by ben • 01/19/23 12:12 PM ET
So glad they haven't given me
Riverguy • 01/19/23 11:18 AM ET
20 yrs ago, the avg HS teacher in our district made $88k. The highest made ◄
pfishe • 01/19/23 11:04 AM ET
The effects of COVID school closures will only get more evident.
MP4VT2004 • 01/19/23 10:32 AM ET
Except these deficiencies were in clear evidence long before Covid.**
PhotoHokieNC • 01/19/23 11:58 AM ET
Very true. Virtual learning just made it worse.**
MP4VT2004 • 01/19/23 12:06 PM ET
Guess they should have called it, "virtual game playing"**
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 12:57 PM ET
You got to touch his frickin' heart **
ModerateHokie • 01/19/23 10:21 AM ET
i always tell my kids the most important thing you need to know is
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 10:27 AM ET
Are you SURE it isn't you?**
HokieNoVA • 01/19/23 10:09 AM ET
Well,.... to be fair, my wife always says it IS me, soo...**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 10:14 AM ET
I don't get it. ; )**
Guy LeDouche • 01/19/23 09:39 AM ET
you and Gator should compare notes
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/23 09:20 AM ET
so your school district ….where is it?
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/23 09:18 AM ET
I tell a lot of them to seriously consider trades and trade education
Riverguy • 01/19/23 09:41 AM ET
Riverguy giving career advice... (pic) **
Burruss Writer • 01/19/23 09:59 AM ET
one of the greatest movies of all time**
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/23 11:01 AM ET
Can you make a bullshot?**
LaneRat • 01/19/23 12:00 PM ET
Can you make a shoe smell?**
Burruss Writer • 01/19/23 01:38 PM ET
Anyone with a BS in psychology, sociology, or "studies" has just been...
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 09:46 AM ET
True 20 years ago, absolutely false today. There is a mental health crisis
vtfin91 • 01/19/23 04:15 PM ET
They aren't worthless for some.
hoosnowahokie • 01/19/23 12:58 PM ET
You also really need an advanced degree to get a real job**
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 01:22 PM ET
You are very, very wrong. Do some research. Your statements were true
vtfin91 • 01/19/23 04:19 PM ET
Just read a long list of worthless college and universitys
AZHokie59 • 01/19/23 12:37 PM ET
Not true. My daughter has a very good, very rewarding job that she loves.
RhinoVT • 01/19/23 10:48 AM ET
Yeah, a psychology or sociology degree itself isn't worthless...
vthokieq • 01/19/23 10:54 AM ET
Private. I've got kids from all over greater RVA**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 09:38 AM ET
Oh well, that explains a lot
hoosnowahokie • 01/19/23 01:00 PM ET
Wow.......
2hhoop3 • 01/19/23 09:58 AM ET
I didn't see that coming either**
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/23 11:02 AM ET
Yeah curious to know. Can't be one of the Saint schools, or Collegiate, or
ModerateHokie • 01/19/23 10:18 AM ET
think in terms of a business model with customers
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 10:01 AM ET
ding-ding-ding**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 10:15 AM ET
LOL Yes, yes, yes, and yes. :o)**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 09:59 AM ET
Crap! Kids in private school that are doing that?
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 09:42 AM ET
I'm guessing the kids and parents know that...
MP4VT2004 • 01/19/23 01:17 PM ET
you don't spend 20K a year to put a poor GPA on a college Application
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 09:46 AM ET
This is where I really like the way Germany does education
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 09:31 AM ET
Those options are more and more available these days
Tafkam Hokie • 01/19/23 11:30 AM ET
Maybe offer Java as a foreign language?**
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 12:48 PM ET
I read a rebuttal to NYT Economist Paul Krugman on school funding...
Burruss Writer • 01/19/23 10:45 AM ET
isn’t Krugman the guy who said
MrBayAreaHokie • 01/19/23 11:21 AM ET
Proof that earning a Nobel Prize doesn't prove you are intelligent... **
Burruss Writer • 01/19/23 01:00 PM ET
Pretty sure that isn't the only completely inane statement he's made.**
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 12:40 PM ET
We've been telling kids for decades that college is required to be
HokieNoVA • 01/19/23 10:04 AM ET
amen**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 09:42 AM ET
i think that is coming back some- my kids HS is huge
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 09:36 AM ET
Machinists, plumbers, electricians, welders, etc, etc, etc.**
vthokieq • 01/19/23 09:36 AM ET
Skilled tradesmen make very good money.**
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 09:40 AM ET
You bet. Hired a plumber lately?**
AZHokie59 • 01/19/23 12:49 PM ET
even the unskilled ones**
JoesterVT • 01/19/23 12:08 PM ET
yep, and they usually start working with very little debt. If any.**
reestuart • 01/19/23 09:48 AM ET
indeed! and without all that "art history of Mali" debt to show either.**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 09:43 AM ET
Yup**
vthokieq • 01/19/23 09:42 AM ET
Did missing a year of school due to the pandemic lead to this, or...
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 09:15 AM ET
Oh Covid is certainly a piece of the puzzle but
Riverguy • 01/19/23 09:58 AM ET
the world needs ditch diggers too
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 09:14 AM ET
They won't dig ditches...will live at home, play on their playstation and..
vthhhi • 01/19/23 09:31 AM ET
the military is a great option **
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 09:33 AM ET
Haha...will need to bring back the draft!**
vthhhi • 01/19/23 09:38 AM ET
There was one?**
VTScanlo • 01/19/23 11:43 AM ET
Why are you seemingly tolerating it now?
vthokieq • 01/19/23 09:07 AM ET
I've got Alg 2, and Alg 2 Honors
Riverguy • 01/19/23 10:06 AM ET
The schools are afraid because it affects their accreditation. It's the
Stork • 01/19/23 09:34 AM ET
Yep. I underestimated this coming in to the job.**
Riverguy • 01/19/23 10:07 AM ET
Which is why I told him to document everything.
vthokieq • 01/19/23 09:37 AM ET
Oh yeah. I document everything.
Riverguy • 01/19/23 10:13 AM ET
Have you thought about offering "Math camps" in the summer?
EDGEMAN • 01/19/23 12:47 PM ET
he can still fail them even if it is him- that's the beauty of it **
bigbadbird • 01/19/23 09:15 AM ET