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I agree making those 3 plays and winning 3 more games masks problems.
We are who we are. Those 3 games, if won, would have us in a perception that we're better than we are. I like the wake up call this is giving Virginia Tech.
As much as I adore Frank Beamer, think back to the reality that he let good special teams and defense mask a really bad offense for a long time. He kept getting bailed out by Pride and Joy and Bud Foster. It cost him and Virginia Tech the chance at greater successes in a lot of circumstances. He was satisfied with something that wasn't as good as he thought it was on offense.
If we were 5-4, there'd be a perception of satisfaction that probably shouldn't be there and it might result in a more long term lack of growth, similar to Frank's offenses.
Thread Replies (46)
Alternate universe question regarding your perception of the team
-- hokiedad25
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:17 AM ET
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11/07/22 10:17 AM ET
This team is a universe from being even close to decent...
-- banishedtothelounge
Nov 07, 2022 at 04:35 PM ET
banishedtothelounge
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11/07/22 04:35 PM ET
But they didn’t. On key plays they’ve come up short a high % of the time.
-- marcbvtgm
Nov 07, 2022 at 03:48 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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11/07/22 03:48 PM ET
Most games are decided by a handful
-- HokieKick`nBack
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:36 PM ET
HokieKick`nBack
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11/07/22 01:36 PM ET
I don't know that I feel any different. We still would not know if we are
-- 97Hokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:28 PM ET
97Hokie
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11/07/22 01:28 PM ET
Students and alums cheered team on much higher percentage than I expected
-- ACC_Hoops
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:05 PM ET
ACC_Hoops
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11/07/22 01:05 PM ET
Add a uva win I’m exstatic beat Liberty too n beyond happy**
-- 83Hokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 12:12 PM ET
83Hokie
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11/07/22 12:12 PM ET
We would see that our guys are battling for wins, and once Coach Pry can...
-- EDGEMAN
Nov 07, 2022 at 12:07 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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11/07/22 12:07 PM ET
I would rather see sound football and steady improvement.
-- dllawson
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:43 AM ET
dllawson
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11/07/22 11:43 AM ET
At VT, "sound football" took the season off.**
-- HokieJay
Nov 07, 2022 at 02:01 PM ET
HokieJay
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11/07/22 02:01 PM ET
"Closer losses to much better teams" like who? ND was really good...
-- BROman Hokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 12:01 PM ET
BROman Hokie
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11/07/22 12:01 PM ET
It’s also a bit ironic to say, "WVU and 'Cuse sucked last year"
-- dllawson
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:16 PM ET
dllawson
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11/07/22 01:16 PM ET
That's not the main point of my post, but ...
-- dllawson
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:11 PM ET
dllawson
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11/07/22 01:11 PM ET
We are National Champions in Alternative Universe.
-- NoHuddle
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:35 AM ET
NoHuddle
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11/07/22 11:35 AM ET
HH came back through the portal with a few WRs, a bag of NIL money, Hokie
-- ACC_Hoops
Nov 07, 2022 at 12:58 PM ET
ACC_Hoops
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11/07/22 12:58 PM ET
Not much different because VT being 2-7 instead of 4-5 is a stat anomaly
-- Synaesthesia
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:32 AM ET
Synaesthesia
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11/07/22 11:32 AM ET
Yes, I'd feel much better about 5-4. we'd be closing out winnable games
-- 6thStreetHokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:28 AM ET
6thStreetHokie
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11/07/22 11:28 AM ET
I'd be fine with splitting close but winnable games rather than all losses**
-- Happy Dog
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:46 AM ET
Happy Dog
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11/07/22 11:46 AM ET
Coach Beamer: "You're never as good or as bad as you think."
-- HokieJay
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:26 AM ET
HokieJay
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11/07/22 11:26 AM ET
But remember the depth isn't there.
-- hokiedad25
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:31 AM ET
hokiedad25
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11/07/22 11:31 AM ET
I though about that but then we have 26 seniors...
-- HokieJay
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:38 AM ET
HokieJay
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11/07/22 11:38 AM ET
26 seniors playing in a new system. That's why the young guys are doing
-- bburgnative
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:02 PM ET
bburgnative
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11/07/22 01:02 PM ET
Are you implying that an 18 year old learns and executes faster ....
-- HokieJay
Nov 07, 2022 at 01:59 PM ET
HokieJay
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11/07/22 01:59 PM ET
No. I'm saying the older guys have been playing in a diffetent system for
-- bburgnative
Nov 07, 2022 at 02:33 PM ET
bburgnative
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11/07/22 02:33 PM ET
I get that, I just can't buy it.
-- HokieJay
Nov 07, 2022 at 02:40 PM ET
HokieJay
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11/07/22 02:40 PM ET
IMO the alternate universe comes down to a healthy Malachi Thomas**
-- BROman Hokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:24 AM ET
BROman Hokie
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11/07/22 11:24 AM ET
And don't forget Dorian Strong in the secondary.**
-- hokiedad25
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:29 AM ET
hokiedad25
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11/07/22 11:29 AM ET
Yep, it doesn't help when your 2 best players are out for most of the year**
-- BROman Hokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:44 AM ET
BROman Hokie
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11/07/22 11:44 AM ET
Been talking about this very thing with some buddies. The mood on this
-- 86TechHokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:09 AM ET
86TechHokie
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11/07/22 11:09 AM ET
Good teams find ways to win. Bad teams find ways to lose**
-- VT ChemE 1986
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:06 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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11/07/22 11:06 AM ET
Consistency is missing, &I think it is more with the coaches than players
-- Ray
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:05 AM ET
Ray
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11/07/22 11:05 AM ET
It would be very different for me as well.
-- vtfanuvalaw
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:59 AM ET
vtfanuvalaw
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11/07/22 10:59 AM ET
I agree making those 3 plays and winning 3 more games masks problems.
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-- HokieinATL07
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:58 AM ET
HokieinATL07
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11/07/22 10:58 AM ET
It's a data point on the coaching staff report card...
-- Techsupport
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:56 AM ET
Techsupport
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11/07/22 10:56 AM ET
The summer betting guides always call out teams that had a lot of close L's
-- HokieAl
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:56 AM ET
HokieAl
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11/07/22 10:56 AM ET
Several random observations:
-- Maroon Baboon
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:48 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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11/07/22 10:48 AM ET
They expect to lose
-- OldRetiredHokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:46 AM ET
OldRetiredHokie
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11/07/22 10:46 AM ET
Honestly, I prefer losing in spite of being the better team in year 1
-- soflahokie
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:40 AM ET
soflahokie
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11/07/22 10:40 AM ET
Very little difference between 2 and 6 wins
-- Seikoh_04
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:40 AM ET
Seikoh_04
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11/07/22 10:40 AM ET
Totally different perception for me. NC State would have shown Pry
-- WildTurkE
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:30 AM ET
WildTurkE
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11/07/22 10:30 AM ET
I'm assuming when ESPN says we're 86% likely to win a game in the 4th
-- WildTurkE
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:00 AM ET
WildTurkE
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11/07/22 11:00 AM ET
We've been down the 6-6 route. Better record doesn't mean we're heading
-- vtlee
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:24 AM ET
vtlee
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11/07/22 10:24 AM ET
Yeah, Fuente did fantastic in year one, which solidified the idea he
-- Hokie1992
Nov 07, 2022 at 10:41 AM ET
Hokie1992
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11/07/22 10:41 AM ET
The question is whether everything is actually improving behind the scenes.
-- vtfanuvalaw
Nov 07, 2022 at 11:09 AM ET
vtfanuvalaw
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11/07/22 11:09 AM ET
I’d say frost got lucky at Central Florida
-- Hokie1992
Nov 07, 2022 at 12:45 PM ET
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11/07/22 12:45 PM ET